# Ignition Edge ports to run along regualr Ignition

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [July 27, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327 "2022-07-27T04:55:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![andrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@andrews](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrews)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327/1 "2022-07-27T04:55:30Z")

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I would like install Ignition and Ignition Edge on my laptop to play around with. I already installed regular Ignition.

Per this thread [Installing Ignition Edge 8.0.3 on the same computer that has Ignition 8.0.3 - #3 by mehulbhai.patel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/installing-ignition-edge-8-0-3-on-the-same-computer-that-has-ignition-8-0-3/28182/3)  
I already changed the service name. Now I have to figure out the ports.

Defaults are 8088, 8043, and 8060 would it be acceptable to just bump them all one i.e.  
8089, 8044, and 8061 ? I’m not too familiar with port choosing.

Thank you in advance!

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327/2 "2022-07-27T11:16:47Z")

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Yes, you can just bump those ports. And the OPC Server’s port. I don’t know them all.

But you’re just asking for trouble. Learn to use VMs or containers–and not having Ignition installed locally at all.

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**Author:** ![andrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@andrews](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrews)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327/3 "2022-07-27T13:23:11Z")

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@pturmel what kind of issues should I be concerned about in regards to running locally?

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327/4 "2022-07-27T18:45:04Z")

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- Intermingled resources (ram, but especially cpu)
- Port conflicts
- deployment breakages where development references localhost in unexpected places, and/or failure to allow for non-localhost traffic
- Certificate trouble with localhost

A host machine that runs a virtual network can allocate IP addresses to VMs and containers that are separate from the host. VMs and containers can be given specific CPU cores and a fixed RAM allocation that is entirely theirs. You immediately discover improper use of localhost (because it won’t work). An internal Certificate Authority can create certs for VMs/containers without conflicts.

A local install is only suitable for IA’s training, IMNSHO.

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**Author:** ![Matrix\_Engineering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matrix_engineering/32/19781_2.png) [@Matrix\_Engineering](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Matrix_Engineering)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327/5 "2022-07-27T18:48:37Z")

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VM is easier to deploy, especially if you only want 2 instances. Long term, if you plan on having many instances, I recommend you look into Docker containers.

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**Author:** ![andrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@andrews](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrews)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327/6 "2022-07-27T19:20:50Z")

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@pturmel and @Matrix_Engineering i Dont “think” I’ll have too much trouble as this dual local setup will just be for me to play around with and gain more familiarity. I.e. navigation , basis setup and connectivity to a test device maybe.

I see the advantage of docker but think hit lacks replicating a full setup. So any any actual work related stuff I’d be running a VM which replicates the customers setup.

I think I’m gonna have to upgrade my laptop, but I’ll worry about that when I do more ignition stuff. Right now my company doesn’t really let me do much and I don’t really have a side opportunities in abundance

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**Author:** ![Matrix\_Engineering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matrix_engineering/32/19781_2.png) [@Matrix\_Engineering](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Matrix_Engineering)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327/7 "2022-07-27T19:23:01Z")

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If your laptop is a little light on spec, see if it can even run one VM. Put Edge on it as it requires fewer resources.

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**Author:** ![andrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@andrews](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrews)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-ports-to-run-along-regualr-ignition/62327/8 "2022-07-27T19:36:20Z")

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@Matrix_Engineering i have 3 vms but for non igniton stuff. And I don’t really have space to toss on more nor the time to get a bigger SSD right now. I can run them off an external I have . But it’s just a pain to plug in the external every time I wanna use a VM
