# Ignition Installation Crash

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-installation-crash/82254>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition81\
**Created:** [November 22, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-installation-crash/82254 "2023-11-22T14:21:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![Alex\_Jutte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@Alex\_Jutte](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Alex_Jutte)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-installation-crash/82254/1 "2023-11-22T14:21:50Z")

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Hello!  
Trying to download the latest Ignition 8.1 onto my computer, I do not have any older versions on the computer.

I run as administrator, the Ignition logo-box pops up and then fades away- it's not running in the background, task manager does not pick it up.

The latest Java is installed on the computer, and when I tried to download Ignition 7 to upgrade to 8, it wanted version 8/9 of Java which I wasn't able to download. (And task manager picked up that it was trying to install.)

I would really appreciate any help!

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-installation-crash/82254/2 "2023-11-22T15:33:34Z")

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You do not need java installed on your system to install Ignition v8+. It comes with its own runtime.

Do you have any IT restrictions on running java?

Consider asking IA support to look over your shoulder.