# Ignition V8 release **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 6, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247 "2018-03-06T13:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Curlyandshemp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Curlyandshemp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Curlyandshemp)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/1 "2018-03-06T13:03:30Z")
Any update on the release of V8 ? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/2 "2018-03-06T13:20:11Z")
Certainly not before the conference. ---
**Author:** ![ryanjmclaughlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ryanjmclaughlin/32/4318_2.png) [@ryanjmclaughlin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ryanjmclaughlin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/3 "2018-03-06T16:25:07Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > not before the conference So, _AT_ the conference!!! Woohoo. HAHAHA, just kidding. Hope its coming along good. Can't wait to see it. ---
**Author:** ![JordanCClark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jordancclark/32/83362_2.png) [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/4 "2018-03-06T18:09:55Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > Certainly not before the conference. > [@ryanjmclaughlin](#): > > So, AT the conference!!! Woohoo. Does that mean USB sticks will be available for us to take it home? šŸ˜œ ---
**Author:** ![JordanCClark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jordancclark/32/83362_2.png) [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/5 "2018-03-06T18:11:16Z")
Dang! Forgot to ask about Omron FINSā€¦ after all, itā€™s been a while since Iā€™ve whined about itā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![diat150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@diat150](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diat150)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/6 "2018-03-06T23:09:24Z")
how about the html5 module or option? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/7 "2018-03-06T23:15:49Z")
> [@JordanCClark](#): > > Dang! Forgot to ask about Omron FINS... after all, it's been a while since I've whined about it... Not part of 8 ā˜¹ > [@diat150](#): > > how about the html5 module or option? Part of 8! If we're talking about the same thing? ---
**Author:** ![diat150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@diat150](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diat150)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/8 "2018-03-07T00:07:16Z")
Yeah I am talking about whatever will allow ignition to be served up in html5 instead of java. Is it going to be in the first release of 8 or at a later date? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/9 "2018-03-07T00:18:30Z")
Itā€™s going to be in the first release of 8. ---
**Author:** ![thijs1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/thijs1/32/14793_2.png) [@thijs1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/thijs1)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/10 "2018-03-07T08:38:36Z")
It would be interesting to know what kind of frameworks will be used. (Javascript / backend / ā€¦) . This would prepare integrators a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Curlyandshemp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Curlyandshemp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Curlyandshemp)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/11 "2018-03-07T12:41:44Z")
Is a debugging tool for scripts still part of the release. I recall talking to Carl or Colby at ICC 2016 and they were stating debugging tool would be in Scripting Playground . ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/12 "2018-03-07T13:13:16Z")
I doubt this will make it, but it depends on how the the next few months go. ---
**Author:** ![Curlyandshemp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Curlyandshemp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Curlyandshemp)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/13 "2018-03-07T14:45:55Z")
Thatā€™s too bad, because I am sure you guys have heard many times that troubleshooting script is a Royal PITA ---
**Author:** ![Curlyandshemp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Curlyandshemp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Curlyandshemp)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/14 "2018-03-08T21:11:17Z")
how many of us currently debug scripts like this ? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/2X/7/7e29defd4e35df9cc143e0ce4d48940e0d2ef6bf.png) ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/15 "2018-03-08T21:33:54Z")
Thatā€™s how it was done ā€œback in the dayā€, and how itā€™s still done for many kinds of programming and languages. We realize how nice it would be to have some better IDE-like features but it just hasnā€™t made the cut yet. ---
**Author:** ![Curlyandshemp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Curlyandshemp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Curlyandshemp)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/16 "2018-03-08T21:47:27Z")
YaBut, Is not Ignition to be ā€˜above the restā€™ and ā€˜not like the restā€™ šŸ˜ˆ ---
**Author:** ![bfuson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/bfuson/32/4597_2.png) [@bfuson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bfuson)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/17 "2018-03-08T21:53:15Z")
You might have better luck splitting your code up into more atomic units. Typically making 1 function do 1 thing well (and fail well) makes debugging a lot easier. That includes input/argument validation and proper exception handling. IE: throw early, catch late (or only catch when you can react in a meaningful way) Granted I know absolutely nothing about what youā€™re doing here, but at a cursory glance Iā€™m confused why something called ā€˜loadTemplateā€™ is updating the database at all. I agree with your message though, better debugging features would be great. I usually ride the struggle bus anytime I need to write a nested expression function, which gives zero feedback outside of ā€˜evaluation errorā€™ or something similar. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/18 "2018-03-08T22:08:49Z")
> [@Curlyandshemp](#): > > That's too bad, because I am sure you guys have heard many times that troubleshooting script is a Royal PITA What's this "troubleshooting" of which y'all are speaking? Do the rest of you not write perfect code? (-; ---
**Author:** ![Curlyandshemp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Curlyandshemp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Curlyandshemp)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/19 "2018-03-08T22:12:15Z")
The load template creates template data to overlay existing data for comparison . This is common in CIP applications. Template or ā€˜Golden Batchā€™ is in red ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/2X/0/006bae3d4ffc5325d5de6f81a36253212fe312da.png) ---
**Author:** ![Curlyandshemp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Curlyandshemp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Curlyandshemp)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/20 "2018-03-08T22:16:15Z")
my code is perfect, end users are just not using it right šŸ˜ [Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247.md?page=2)