# Ignition V8 release **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 6, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247 "2018-03-06T13:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ctonge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@ctonge](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ctonge)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/21 "2018-03-09T14:35:29Z")
LMAO. Of course!!! I debug it in my mind before writing it… ---
**Author:** ![GreggCava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/65b543/32.png) [@GreggCava](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/GreggCava)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/23 "2018-09-18T01:58:06Z")
@Kevin.Herron If Omron FINS is not coming with 8, any idea of when could we see something? ---
**Author:** ![Paullys50](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paullys50/32/3324_2.png) [@Paullys50](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Paullys50)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/24 "2018-09-18T17:51:19Z")
February 2019 - [https://inductiveautomation.com/ignition/whatsnew](https://inductiveautomation.com/ignition/whatsnew) ---
**Author:** ![diat150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@diat150](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diat150)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/25 "2018-09-18T18:00:53Z")
im ready for the beta!! ---
**Author:** ![dnord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@dnord](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dnord)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/26 "2018-09-18T18:03:49Z")
Will Perspective be the primary choice for visualization regardless of device? Any missing features compared to the Vision module? ---
**Author:** ![DSI600](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@DSI600](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/DSI600)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/27 "2018-09-18T18:06:21Z")
The what’s new page for V8 is pretty interesting. Wish I could go to ICC but someone won’t pay for it. So if you have existing plants with current Vision / Mobile module - will license port over during upgrade to perspective? Or will they have to fork out new money for Perspective? If they have to buy a new license will there be a discount or trade in? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/28 "2018-09-18T18:42:22Z")
If you have an existing Mobile license you’ll have a Perspective Mobile Edition license in 8.0. Vision remains Vision and will of course be usable and supported in 8.0. ---
**Author:** ![mazeyrat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mazeyrat/32/10955_2.png) [@mazeyrat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mazeyrat)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/29 "2018-09-18T18:57:59Z")
@Kevin.Herron Perspective seems really amazing. For Ignition 8, what are the new features in the gateway scope ? A new powerful opcua server is coming… but are there any news features for tags, history and alarms ? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/30 "2018-09-18T20:12:27Z")
Tags have been completely revamped with an eye towards performance, especially for massive (million+) tag systems, and when you have a lot of UDT definitions, and how changes to those definitions now workout without fully reloading every tag underneath in a disruptive way. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/31 "2018-09-18T20:14:03Z")
> [@GreggCava](#): > > If Omron FINS is not coming with 8, any idea of when could we see something? It's possible an Omron FINS module gets released in between 8.0 and 8.1 but it's too early to tell yet. Need to see what the demands on my time are leading up to the 8.0 release. Post-8.0 my focus is supposed to return to drivers though. ---
**Author:** ![Paullys50](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paullys50/32/3324_2.png) [@Paullys50](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Paullys50)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/32 "2018-09-18T21:34:32Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > If you have an existing Mobile license you'll have a Perspective Mobile Edition license in 8.0. > > Vision remains Vision and will of course be usable and supported in 8.0. For new projects, are there any arguments to use the Vision module instead of Perspective? You may not be able to answer this, but do you know the impact Perspective has on Sepasoft? I assume Sepasoft components won't be compatible until they update themselves? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/33 "2018-09-18T21:38:21Z")
> [@Paullys50](#): > > For new projects, are there any arguments to use the Vision module instead of Perspective? Perspective won't have 100% of the Vision components you have access to today. It's also possible that in some environments running a web browser isn't feasible or desirable for some reason? Things like fullscreen and access to window controls, for example. Native desktop companion apps with "kiosk" mode and other features will follow in 8.1+. > [@Paullys50](#): > > You may not be able to answer this, but do you know the impact Perspective has on Sepasoft? I assume Sepasoft components won't be compatible until they update themselves? I don't know their dev timeline, but yes they have to develop a new set of components for Perspective. The Vision module will continue to work, and will work in parallel, though. ---
**Author:** ![mt1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@mt1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mt1)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 8:49am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/34 "2018-09-19T08:49:25Z")
> Tags have been completely revamped with an eye towards performance, especially for massive (million+) tag systems, and when you have a lot of UDT definitions, and how changes to those definitions now workout without fully reloading every tag underneath in a disruptive way. Great news. Really! Even if the tags are called by name and not address? That would be a huge improvement. ---
**Author:** ![diat150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@diat150](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diat150)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/35 "2018-09-19T12:51:14Z")
Do you have a timeline on when the first beta will be available? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/36 "2018-09-19T15:56:17Z")
> [@mt1](#): > > Even if the tags are called by name and not address? That would be a huge improvement. Do you mean when indirection or parameters are used in UDTs or something else? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/37 "2018-09-19T15:57:24Z")
> [@diat150](#): > > Do you have a timeline on when the first beta will be available? There are signups for access, or will be if the link on that marketing page isn't live yet, and I'd guess it's at least 6 weeks out. Don't hold me to that 😛 ---
**Author:** ![PRAMANJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pramanj/32/66935_2.png) [@PRAMANJ](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/PRAMANJ)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/38 "2018-09-19T16:47:10Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > Tags have been completely revamped with an eye towards performance, especially for massive (million+) tag systems, Will it affect the existing API's for SQLTagsManager in the gateway scope and common scope for Scalar Tags (not UDT's). My module is based on these class libraries, will they get compiled under the new version of Ignition without any problem? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/39 "2018-09-19T16:52:56Z")
> [@prafull\_j](#): > > Will it affect the existing API's for SQLTagsManager in the gateway scope and common scope for Scalar Tags (not UDT's). My module is based on these class libraries, will they get compiled under the new version of Ignition without any problem? Yes, the APIs have been affected. There's very little chance your module will run or compile without changes. Sign up for the beta 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mazeyrat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mazeyrat/32/10955_2.png) [@mazeyrat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mazeyrat)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/40 "2018-09-19T17:01:24Z")
@Kevin.Herron I’m very interested by Ignition 8 new tag’s features for a new project. The design of our application will start very soon. We will stay with Vision for HMI but tags and associated data and properties improvements will be very welcomed. We are candidate for a beta or alpha. Where can we sign up for this? ---
**Author:** ![PRAMANJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pramanj/32/66935_2.png) [@PRAMANJ](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/PRAMANJ)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/41 "2018-09-19T17:06:19Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > Yes, the APIs have been affected. There's very little chance your module will run or compile without changes. Hope the JAVA DOCS library and SDK documentation will be updated for these new class libraries. [Previous page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247.md?page=3)