# In alarms, the {fullItemPath} property does not return the brackets that surround the provider **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81\ **Created:** [August 3, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638 "2022-08-03T16:05:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/82dd89/32.png) [@ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ISEMAREN_AAG)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/1 "2022-08-03T16:05:42Z")
Good afternoon. In Ingition 8.1.15, in Alarms, I’ve noticed that the **{fullitemPath}** property does not return the **brackets** that surround the **provider**. **Example** : ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/f/8/f8943e4e06acd7cf86b1cb819cd9b8c908521f76.png) **Result** : ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/5/8/587fc2f48ee1e61a4e07eab6f9b5a7788b2de5fa.png) Best Regards. ---
**Author:** ![ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/82dd89/32.png) [@ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ISEMAREN_AAG)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 9:42am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/2 "2022-08-05T09:42:22Z")
Any help?? ---
**Author:** ![ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/82dd89/32.png) [@ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ISEMAREN_AAG)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/3 "2022-08-11T14:06:30Z")
… I think it is a Bug. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/4 "2022-08-11T14:25:06Z")
That isn’t a bug. That is how displayPath is returned, string separated by “/”. ---
**Author:** ![ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/82dd89/32.png) [@ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ISEMAREN_AAG)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/5 "2022-08-11T15:12:41Z")
The Bug is in **{fullItemPath}** not in DisplayPath. I used DisplayPath just to illustrate the problem. {fullItemPath} should return the full path of the tag correctly: “**[default]…**” “ **default/…** ” **is not a correct path**. For example, if you wanted to read the Tooltip of the tag, you would write: _tag({fullItemPath} + “.Tooltip”)_, but it doesn’t work because the full path isn’t generated correctly. Best Regards. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/6 "2022-08-11T15:21:44Z")
My mistake, but I still don’t think that is a bug. I don’t see documentation on it, so not sure 100%, but if you want to get the tooltip use the keyword `this`, [Tag Paths - Ignition User Manual 8.1 - Ignition Documentation](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Tag+Paths) ```auto {this.name} {this.tooltip} {this.enabled} ``` ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/7 "2022-08-11T18:11:27Z")
@cmallonee can you please confirm what `Full Item Path` is supposed to return? ---
**Author:** ![cmallonee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/cmallonee/32/6416_2.png) [@cmallonee](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/cmallonee)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/8 "2022-08-11T19:14:23Z")
I’m really more of a front-end resource, but here’s what I was able to determine with some help: - `fullItemPath` builds the path from referencing the source path, which itself contains no brackets - this is why `fullItemPath` does not and has not had brackets in the past. I verified this has been the behavior for a very long time, and is not regarded as a bug. - In the example given to reference the tooltip, `{this.tooltip}` is indeed the correct interpolation, as opposed to building the path yourself. - If you DO need to build a path for some reason, `{this.path}` would give you the path to the Tag, and you would need to build your expression from there, a la `{this.path} + "/Alarms/" + {name}` to build the path to the alarm in question. ---
**Author:** ![ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/82dd89/32.png) [@ISEMAREN\_AAG](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ISEMAREN_AAG)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:58am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/in-alarms-the-fullitempath-property-does-not-return-the-brackets-that-surround-the-provider/62638/9 "2022-08-12T08:58:34Z")
Ok. Thank you.