# Internal Alarm Journal Db values lost

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/internal-alarm-journal-db-values-lost/45060>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [March 30, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/internal-alarm-journal-db-values-lost/45060 "2021-03-30T15:45:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![mohamad.tayara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@mohamad.tayara](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mohamad.tayara)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/internal-alarm-journal-db-values-lost/45060/1 "2021-03-30T15:45:00Z")

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Hi, I am using Ignition 8.0.14 and it seems that the alarm history data (Internal Alarm Journal) was lost after changing the config of the journal provider (changed the source filter from the default value).

- is it a normal behavior (alarm history lost after changing the config)?
- is it possible to retrieve the alarm history data from a gateway backup (auto backup configured) but the alarmsJournal\_Journal.idb seems to be blank (no data).

Thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![osolorzano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/osolorzano/32/6432_2.png) [@osolorzano](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/osolorzano)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/internal-alarm-journal-db-values-lost/45060/2 "2021-03-30T19:35:35Z")

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Sorry this is a known issue with the internal alarm journal. The only real way to get that data back would be to restore a gateway backup from before any edits were made to the internal alarm journal.  
The internal sources can be nice for testing, but currently if you really need the data to persist then I would suggest doing a database journal.