# Iphone and Ignition **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [April 28, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791 "2010-04-28T09:47:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hazey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@hazey](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hazey)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/1 "2010-04-28T09:47:05Z")
Guys what would be the best method to view an Ignition installation with an Iphone? VNC into server? thanks hazey ---
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/2 "2010-04-28T17:01:34Z")
I’ve tested w/ RDP into a Windows Server. ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/3 "2010-04-30T21:53:30Z")
VNC/RDP is currently the only way. In case your next words are: “Isn’t there anything better?” - don’t worry, we’ve heard this request loud and clear, and are working on plans to accommodate mobile access in a more first-class manner. ---
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/4 "2010-05-03T13:03:01Z")
Nice! Android support too perhaps? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Chase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kyle\_Chase](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kyle_Chase)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/5 "2010-05-03T21:10:03Z")
Nice!! Cant wait to have an ignition client running on my N1. I was thinking of building a module to do this as I believe the main issue right now is java.swing is available in J2SE, but not J2ME right. Also, J2ME does not support web launch. Android, however, is based on Java. Shouldnt be too hard right? ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/6 "2010-05-04T02:48:05Z")
The technology choice is still in play, but it looks like straight HTML + ajax would be the best choice for the types of projects people want to access on mobile devices, and this way all of the popular mobile/smartphone platforms will work well. ---
**Author:** ![bryan\_cook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a8b319/32.png) [@bryan\_cook](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bryan_cook)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/7 "2010-05-04T13:16:34Z")
[quote="Kyle Chase"]Nice!! Cant wait to have an ignition client running on my N1. I was thinking of building a module to do this as I believe the main issue right now is java.swing is available in J2SE, but not J2ME right. Also, J2ME does not support web launch. Android, however, is based on Java. Shouldnt be too hard right?[/quote]N1 = Nexus One? How do you like it? I'm currently holding out for the [HTC EVO 4G](http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/) ... I actually just bought an Android book last week ... a couple of friends and I are planning on developing an application. Android runs on top of the [Dalvik Virtual Machine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_VM), (I believe a modified version). As you'll see in the Wikipedia link ... > [@](#): > > Dalvik does not align to Java SE nor Java ME Class Library profiles, (e.g., Java ME classes, AWT or Swing are not supported). Instead it uses its own library built on a subset of the Apache Harmony Java implementation. Carl, I think you're correct in going with a strictly HTML/AJAX approach ... probably the safest approach considering the amount of mobile platforms available and upcoming, (iPhone OS, Android, [Windows Phone 7](http://www.windowsphone7.com/), [webOS](http://developer.palm.com/), [Symbian^3](http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/Symbian%5E3), [MeeGo](http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/meego-nokia-and-intel-merge-maemo-and-moblin/), etc). ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/8 "2010-05-04T17:42:41Z")
Yeah, I think so too, and I think that its capabilities are only going to get better in the coming years (HTML5/canvas element specifically) ---
**Author:** ![diat150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@diat150](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diat150)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/9 "2010-05-26T15:55:56Z")
do you have a projected launch date for smartphone capability? ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/10 "2010-05-26T23:41:39Z")
Probably around 1st qtr 2011 ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/11 "2010-11-20T01:21:32Z")
Here’s a tease for all of you waiting on the mobile module. Enjoy! 😈 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/1X/fced606a7bf9135c91f6ebdbcdbeae25dba352f3.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![diat150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@diat150](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diat150)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/12 "2010-11-23T13:05:44Z")
any release date yet? do these windows have to be setup separately from your normal project windows? ---
**Author:** ![Colby.Clegg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/colby.clegg/32/3282_2.png) [@Colby.Clegg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Colby.Clegg)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/13 "2010-11-23T16:52:56Z")
We don’t have an exact release date, but it will be early in the first quarter. Putting it a different way, we have the sales people asking us every day when they can sell it, and we’re basically ready to tell them to go for it. You won’t have to re-write your projects. It will work with the projects you already have- though we suspect that it will be common to create side “mobile” projects that are a bit more optimized for the screen size, and what people want to see/do when using their phones. But, the important point is: it will just be a normal Vision project. Since everyone is going to ask this: it’s not a native Android/iPhone app. Instead, it’s a web application optimized for those phones- but compatible with any HTML5 compliant mobile browser. This means iPad and likely Windows 7 mobile (as well as the next-gen blackberrys, from what we can tell). The fact that it’s not a compiled app for those phones may seem like a disadvantage, but reserve judgment until you’ve tried it- everyone has been blown away so far. ---
**Author:** ![diat150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@diat150](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diat150)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/14 "2010-11-23T17:19:26Z")
ok next question, do you need a beta tester? ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/15 "2010-11-30T15:37:39Z")
Yes, we do need beta testers. 7.2 (and the Mobile Module) should be up for beta soon. ---
**Author:** ![jdana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c89c15/32.png) [@jdana](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jdana)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/16 "2010-11-30T17:13:51Z")
Would this work with a motorola mc75a? Or what software and or operating system would be required in a mobile device.? The mc75 a can be a barcode scanner/cell phone/ ip phone/ etc, but it can be holstered into a frame and works well as an industrial barcode scanner. ---
**Author:** ![diat150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@diat150](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diat150)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/17 "2010-11-30T19:09:58Z")
where can I download the beta once it comes out? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/18 "2010-11-30T19:19:10Z")
> [@jdana](#): > > Would this work with a motorola mc75a? Or what software and or operating system would be required in a mobile device.? The mc75 a can be a barcode scanner/cell phone/ ip phone/ etc, but it can be holstered into a frame and works well as an industrial barcode scanner. It requires a modern mobile web browser. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Chase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kyle\_Chase](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kyle_Chase)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 8:44am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/19 "2010-12-01T08:44:28Z")
Translation: IOS (Iphone, ITouch, IPad), Android, or Blackberry OS 6 web browsers. ---
**Author:** ![Automate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Automate](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Automate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791/20 "2010-12-01T17:41:04Z")
Even the new Windows Phone 7 is not modern enough since it does not support HTML 5. [html5trends.com/browsers/win … 5-not-yet/](http://www.html5trends.com/browsers/windows-phone-7-html5-not-yet/) [Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iphone-and-ignition/1791.md?page=2)