# MacOS Sequoia JXBrowser Designer Crash Issue **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** perspective\ **Created:** [September 5, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585 "2024-09-05T12:40:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/21 "2024-09-19T21:58:35Z")
No, this will require an upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/22 "2024-09-19T23:58:48Z")
Which means Sequoia will be unfit for working on older gateways. ---
**Author:** ![Saqib\_Shafin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/saqib_shafin/32/67615_2.png) [@Saqib\_Shafin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Saqib_Shafin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 5:43am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/23 "2024-09-20T05:43:58Z")
I've found a workaround (based on @ynejati 's comment): I replaced JxBrowser ver-7.35.1 that came with my Ignition 8.1.36, to ver-7.41.2. JxBrowser is found at "/usr/local/ignition/lib/opt/jxbrowser/". Restart the Server, and every Local Ignition project will work again, no more losing the Props UI, or not being able to create a new view. We also need to update "jxbrowser.xml" to point to the new JxBrowser version. Got JxBrowser 7.41.2 from here: [JxBrowser 7.41.2](https://teamdev.com/jxbrowser/release-notes/2024/v7-41-2/#download-jxbrowser-7-41-2). **But** , it **cannot** run **remote Gateway projects** , since, in my case, I didn't update the remote Gateway Server's JxBrowser...it's a Live Test server...the Admin won't allow tinkering with it for my sake, so yeah, not useful in a sense... ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/24 "2024-09-20T15:36:46Z")
Interesting data point. QA already tested 7.41.2 and while it resolved the initial crash it performed very poorly and had other regressions. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/25 "2024-09-20T19:06:08Z")
Well I can barely believe it, but Windows 11 for ARM running on Parallels on my M2 MBP can run both a Designer Launcher and the Designer itself. This may be a workaround for running any older versions that don't work natively. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/8/b/8bc37b2fb560a44e2bd9fa9ce574527f0218f62c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ynejati](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ynejati/32/6093_2.png) [@ynejati](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ynejati)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/26 "2024-09-20T22:34:20Z")
Sorry for the inconvenience. We are working with the JxBrowser team (TeamDev) in hopes of resolving this issue as quickly as possible. Thanks for the report. I'm going to go ahead and pin this topic in hopes that it might help others to think before they upgrade their MacOS. ---
**Author:** ![ynejati](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ynejati/32/6093_2.png) [@ynejati](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ynejati)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/27 "2024-09-20T22:42:39Z")
Pinned on September 20, 2024, 10:42pm UTC ---
**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/28 "2024-09-21T14:13:46Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > Parallels This is what I use, and I've never had a problem with it. ---
**Author:** ![Glen\_Fry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@Glen\_Fry](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Glen_Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/29 "2024-09-24T05:24:07Z")
Likewise, it's been solid. ---
**Author:** ![hunterdg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/hunterdg/32/67774_2.png) [@hunterdg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hunterdg)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/30 "2024-09-25T03:58:39Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > Well I can barely believe it, but Windows 11 for ARM running on Parallels on my M2 MBP can run both a Designer Launcher and the Designer itself. > > This may be a workaround for running any older versions that don't work natively. lol, where ya been? đź‘Ź ---
**Author:** ![hunterdg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/hunterdg/32/67774_2.png) [@hunterdg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hunterdg)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/31 "2024-09-25T04:05:11Z")
Also - you should check out [OrbStack](https://orbstack.dev/). Puts Docker Desktop to shame ---
**Author:** ![kgamble](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kgamble/32/8019_2.png) [@kgamble](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kgamble)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/32 "2024-09-25T04:07:08Z")
Off topic, but genuinely wild how much faster a widely scaled container architecture runs on Orbstack vs docker desktop…. We consistently run 10+ container architectures on orbstack that will leverage 2x the resources with docker desktop ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/33 "2024-09-25T04:13:23Z")
I’ve looked at it but I don’t like the pricing model… too many subscriptions. ---
**Author:** ![hunterdg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/hunterdg/32/67774_2.png) [@hunterdg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hunterdg)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/34 "2024-09-25T04:13:37Z")
I was regretting my decision to buy the 16gb M1 - thinking it surely couldn't handle some of my docker architectures… was using VSCode to connect remotely to Docker Desktop on my 64gb windows dev laptop, (and Tailscale to avoid all the port juggling/reverse proxy nonsense). Gave OrbStack a shot just for giggles. Haven’t used the Windows box since. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/35 "2024-09-25T04:14:53Z")
Was surprised that JXBrowser worked via the x86-arm translation. I’ve been using it for other software for a while. Mostly OPC UA stuff like UaExpert and the CTT. ---
**Author:** ![hunterdg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/hunterdg/32/67774_2.png) [@hunterdg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hunterdg)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/36 "2024-09-25T04:15:45Z")
it's worth it for the automatic reverse proxy alone IMO (I also hate subscription models) ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Fu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b5a626/32.png) [@Frank\_Fu](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Frank_Fu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/37 "2024-09-27T03:52:35Z")
same here, whenever i try to add a new view to Views the issue occurs... has the issue been resolved? ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Fu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b5a626/32.png) [@Frank\_Fu](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Frank_Fu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/38 "2024-09-27T04:22:32Z")
this approach solved my issue, thanks ---
**Author:** ![Patrick\_Mannion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/patrick_mannion/32/72598_2.png) [@Patrick\_Mannion](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Patrick_Mannion)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/39 "2024-10-02T02:44:52Z")
Not to pile on, just logging another data point that I'm experiencing this issue now. Upgraded to 8.1.41. Thanks for the hard work to fix. ---
**Author:** ![Saqib\_Shafin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/saqib_shafin/32/67615_2.png) [@Saqib\_Shafin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Saqib_Shafin)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/40 "2024-10-03T15:52:41Z")
I've been using a new approach: Running my Ignition Designer (remote Gateway Server is at 8.1.36) from a macOS Sonoma that's within a VM. I'm using UTM, for running the VM. And to make sure copy-paste works across my Sequoia and the VM Sonoma, I use the VM through macOS's Screen Sharing app. Works fine. Except, sometimes, the network pass-through gives me some issues. Huge lifesaver for the moment, since, I have to continue working on the same remote Gateway Server. The VM runs smoothly. I'm on a M3 Pro 14in, 18gb 512gb. From UTM: 4gb Memory assigned for the VM, and default settings for the Processor. [Previous page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585.md?page=3)