# MacOS Sequoia JXBrowser Designer Crash Issue

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** perspective\
**Created:** [September 5, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585 "2024-09-05T12:40:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![hirz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/49beb7/32.png) [@hirz](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hirz)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/41 "2024-10-04T17:26:31Z")

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I haven't had a ton of time to test, but yesterday's macOS 15.0.1 appears to have fixed it for me. I can open Perspective pages in designer without immediately getting an error now.

**Update 10-7-24** Tried again today and it's no longer working.

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**Author:** ![Marko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@Marko](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Marko)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/42 "2024-10-07T13:17:43Z")

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Still having the same issue running macOS 15.0.1

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**Author:** ![ynejati](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ynejati/32/6093_2.png) [@ynejati](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ynejati)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/43 "2024-10-07T20:00:20Z")

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A fix will be available in 8.1.44, which should hopefully be released within the next few days, if not later today. Thanks for your patience.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/44 "2024-10-07T20:02:06Z")

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> [@ynejati](#):
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> A fix will be available in 8.1.44, which should hopefully be released within the next few days, if not later today.

To clarify, he means a nightly release containing the fix.

8.1.44 final release is expected ~2024-10-22.

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**Author:** ![kgamble](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kgamble/32/8019_2.png) [@kgamble](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kgamble)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/45 "2024-10-07T20:14:03Z")

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Is the actual fix a part of the designer, and therefore if you have a new launcher able to look at older gateways that were affected?

Or is the issue something that will stay version locked to the gateway?

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/46 "2024-10-07T20:16:02Z")

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JXBrowser is part of the _Designer_, which is versioned in step with the Ignition Gateway you launch against. It is not part of the _Designer Launcher_, which is a separate application from anything else.

The Designer Launcher is truly just a launcher application. Whatever Gateway you point it at, it downloads the binaries from that Gateway, if necessary, and then launches a Designer of that version against that Gateway.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/47 "2024-10-09T00:26:58Z")

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8.1.44-RC1 should have the fix for this.

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**Author:** ![cody.tamaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@cody.tamaki](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/cody.tamaki)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/48 "2024-10-11T20:44:43Z")

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Can confirm this works on 8.1.44-rc1 and Sequoia 15.0.1. Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Romain\_Hedouin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7c8e57/32.png) [@Romain\_Hedouin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Romain_Hedouin)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/49 "2024-10-22T16:02:20Z")

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Is there a chance this may get fixed by a future macOS Sequoia update? For instance 15.1? Has anybody tried with 15.1 since it got released as RC yesterday?

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**Author:** ![michael.flagler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/michael.flagler/32/26272_2.png) [@michael.flagler](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.flagler)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/50 "2024-10-23T03:28:03Z")

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Ignition v8.1.44 stable was released today with the fix.

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**Author:** ![Romain\_Hedouin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7c8e57/32.png) [@Romain\_Hedouin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Romain_Hedouin)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 6:54am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/51 "2024-10-23T06:54:28Z")

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The release of 8.1.44 stable is great, but some of us don't have the option of upgrading their gateways

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/52 "2024-10-23T11:37:39Z")

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You have three options:

- Upgrade your gateway,
- Avoid upgrading your MacOS, or
- use a VM.

IA has no magic wand. Making Sequoia support older designers would have to come from Apple.

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**Author:** ![Saqib\_Shafin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/saqib_shafin/32/67615_2.png) [@Saqib\_Shafin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Saqib_Shafin)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/53 "2024-10-24T13:57:26Z")

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Same here! You can use a VM. Working fine in my case.

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**Author:** ![hunterdg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/hunterdg/32/67774_2.png) [@hunterdg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hunterdg)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/macos-sequoia-jxbrowser-designer-crash-issue/95585/56 "2024-11-11T19:57:51Z")

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> [@pturmel](#):
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> You have three options:
> 
> - Upgrade your gateway,
> - Avoid upgrading your MacOS, or
> - use a VM.

option 4: [Whisky](https://getwhisky.app/) ([WINE](https://www.winehq.org/))

 ![CleanShot 2024-11-11 at 14.19.22](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/2/1/21542a153c0e98c2f3cbd7d3539d32bde01f9477.png)

font is kinda weird though, probably solvable.

 ![CleanShot 2024-11-11 at 13.54.01](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/4/3/43db6dbe264ec3eec14ad013ac6b77637a1066e3.png)

option 5: [linux webtop](https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-webtop/) (docker)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/7/5/758b373c739e66a87db0ba9aa97d00728299a5c5.png)

can also run full windows and macos in docker 🙂

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