# Make license permanent instead of leased **URL:** \ **Category:** Maker\ **Created:** [April 25, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011 "2021-04-25T14:02:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![msteele](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/msteele/32/77889_2.png) [@msteele](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/msteele)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/41 "2024-08-29T22:19:27Z")
> [@pturmel](#): > > (There's a couple odd gaps on the Virginia/W. Virginia line, and between Baltimore and DC. 🤷‍♂️) > **[United States National Radio Quiet Zone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Radio_Quiet_Zone)** > > The National Radio Quiet Zone (NRQZ) is a large area of land in the United States designated as a radio quiet zone, in which radio transmissions are restricted by law to facilitate scientific research and the gathering of military intelligence. About half of the zone is located in the Blue Ridge Mountains of west-central Virginia while the other half is in the Allegheny Mountains of east-central West Virginia; a small part of the zone is in the southernmost tip of the Maryland panhandle. > The Q... ---
**Author:** ![JordanCClark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jordancclark/32/83362_2.png) [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/42 "2024-08-29T23:09:45Z")
> **[Starlink Is Coming to 'Radio Quiet Zones' in the US](https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlink-is-coming-to-radio-quiet-zones-in-the-us)** > > SpaceX has found a way to bring Starlink satellite internet access to radio quiet zones in West Virginia and New Mexico without disturbing local astronomy observatories. ---
**Author:** ![robertm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@robertm](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/robertm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/43 "2025-12-30T19:16:38Z")
I know an older thread, but add another use case. I built an OBDII front end for my vehicle data with Arduino/Canbus/Modbus TCP. Works great, but having it timeout on the touchscreen in the vehicle is a bit of a pain, and don’t particularly want to be tethered to using a hotspot connection every time I’m in the vehicle. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/8/7/879b50759aa9b8f93f520dc41601ade56d219a06.png) ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/44 "2025-12-30T19:41:08Z")
> [@robertm](#): > > but add another use case I hope you aren't holding your breath. Maker is free. Turning it into a untethered license would spawn egregious abuse. ---
**Author:** ![robertm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@robertm](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/robertm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/45 "2025-12-30T20:35:42Z")
I’m sure it probably would….I’m guessing with a periodic internet connection, some metrics could be collected, although IA has said it’s not monitored, to expose abuse, so I understand the thought process. But one can always dream 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/46 "2025-12-30T20:49:30Z")
FWIW, I made a custom roof mount on my Suburban to hold and power my Starlink Mini. That would maintain your Maker connection pretty well, I think. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![gesteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b77776/32.png) [@gesteen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/gesteen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 11:40am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/47 "2026-02-03T11:40:49Z")
I was planning to use the Maker edition for my house as a better and more reliable solution than home assistant. And I’m planning to use a Siemens PLS for lots of these things with bus controlled dimmers, heat pump and hydronic heating. Perspective would be a super solution for this use. But an absolute requirement for me when doing anything with home automation is that it must work independent of a remote connected server. Therefore, maker edition is not a viable option for smart homes. And a full license with perspective is of course out of normal people range for smart home control system. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 11:53am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/48 "2026-02-03T11:53:27Z")
> [@gesteen](#): > > But an absolute requirement for me when doing anything with home automation is that it must work independent of a remote connected server. Why is it a requirement? ---
**Author:** ![David\_Stone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/david_stone/32/79749_2.png) [@David\_Stone](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/David_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 12:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/49 "2026-02-03T12:16:17Z")
> [@gesteen](#): > > But an absolute requirement for me when doing anything with home automation is that it must work independent of a remote connected server. Those who make elaborate requirements are bound to pay for the privilege. Free licenses for Ignition for Maker Edition is an incredible act of generosity from an entity that does not owe anyone anything for free. ---
**Author:** ![michael.flagler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/michael.flagler/32/26272_2.png) [@michael.flagler](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.flagler)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 12:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/50 "2026-02-03T12:24:23Z")
Also keep in mind that it's just a license check and that all control is still local. So there's no concern with privacy of your data, but I still understand your concern that if you lose Internet for any reason for an extended period of time that you'd lose access to your home automation. That's why I still run home assistant as my primary home automation and only have Ignition as an additional toy I can play with. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011/51 "2026-02-03T16:26:39Z")
> [@gesteen](#): > > And a full license with perspective is of course out of normal people range for smart home control system. I'll link this thread which has a few of my replies that cover this, but: > [@Uses for Maker edition](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/uses-for-maker-edition/86373): > > As most probably know, Maker is the at home version for ignition, for those who didn't know, now you do. My question is what benefits am I actually getting using Maker software opposed to developing my own GUI through python? I just can't think of a scenario other than keeping the ignition brain juices flowing, even my "extreme" at home applications (Home garden irrigation, Garage door, Smart lights) I never felt the need to use Maker, actually I felt as if it would've slowed me down. Disclaimer: I am just a dev Our level of interest in B2C sales, as a company, rounds to zero. It's just not a market we're interested in. Maker is provided as a hook to get people to experiment with it and hopefully tell their bosses to buy Ignition at $workplace. That's not really a secret. If the licensing check in is a dealbreaker, then I would strongly encourage you to use a fully FOSS solution like HomeAssistant. [Previous page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/make-license-permanent-instead-of-leased/46011.md?page=2)