# Move backward / Forward in perspective (Bug) **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81\ **Created:** [December 11, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/move-backward-forward-in-perspective-bug/41445 "2020-12-11T19:55:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kumar.chellappan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/2acd7d/32.png) [@kumar.chellappan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kumar.chellappan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/move-backward-forward-in-perspective-bug/41445/1 "2020-12-11T19:55:02Z")
Does anyone notice that the move backward and move forward on 8.1.1 makes the component go to the back and front all the way? Is this a bug? ---
**Author:** ![carlosbqz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carlosbqz/32/52324_2.png) [@carlosbqz](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/carlosbqz)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/move-backward-forward-in-perspective-bug/41445/2 "2021-10-20T19:25:43Z")
I think nobody has noticed yet It still happens in 8.1.9 😥 ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_Portmann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@Adam\_Portmann](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Adam_Portmann)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/move-backward-forward-in-perspective-bug/41445/3 "2024-06-19T11:55:57Z")
I have found, as the button tooltip states, this only works with components that cover each other. I am still unable to move components forward and backward one level (in 8.1.39) that do not overlap, like a view with several embedded views. It's all the way forward or all the way backward. I typically write down the correct order separately and then work my way down the list moving items to the front, or work my way up the list adding items to the back. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Deardorff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ryan_deardorff/32/63815_2.png) [@Ryan\_Deardorff](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ryan_Deardorff)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/move-backward-forward-in-perspective-bug/41445/4 "2024-06-19T13:24:50Z")
Yes, I posted a request to have that fixed: > **[Fix Perspective Designer element "Move Backward/Forward" | Ignition Features...](https://inductiveautomation.canny.io/ignition-features-and-ideas/p/fix-perspective-designer-element-move-backward-forward)** > > Most of the time when I use this feature, it has the effect of moving the element to the front/back instead of moving it a single index. ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_Portmann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@Adam\_Portmann](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Adam_Portmann)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/move-backward-forward-in-perspective-bug/41445/5 "2024-06-25T14:18:45Z")
Thank you for pointing me there! I have posted an image to illustrate the hurdle I encounter daily. ---
**Author:** ![r123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@r123](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/r123)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/move-backward-forward-in-perspective-bug/41445/6 "2026-01-21T22:53:08Z")
Still seeing this in 8.3.3. Some objects will move one step forward or back but others jump the top or bottom even though they are covered by other objects. Sometimes you can move the other objects one step at a time pass them but it's incredibly time consuming and often gets reset. ---
**Author:** ![Nol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Nol](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Nol)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/move-backward-forward-in-perspective-bug/41445/7 "2026-01-21T22:58:07Z")
Yeah it's a bug and given how long it's been a thing I'm not sure it'll get fixed in the near future. Just Ctrl+Select the objects in the order you want then do a cut and paste and it'll reorganize them into that order. Easiest workaround.