# Moving UDTs and instances into non-default tag provider

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**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition78\
**Created:** [April 21, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/moving-udts-and-instances-into-non-default-tag-provider/14111 "2017-04-21T23:26:55Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/moving-udts-and-instances-into-non-default-tag-provider/14111/1 "2017-04-21T23:26:55Z")

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I am continuing work on my energy meter project on a shared Ignition server with multiple users. It seems a good idea to move my energy meter UDTs and instances from the ‘default’ provider into my own tag provider ‘tp\_BA\_Energy’. This way I can protect the tag definitions with role-based security and prevent other users from ‘improving’ them.

As a first attempt I copied the UDTs (in Data Types) and all the meters into my new tag provider as shown below.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/2X/9/97a55a4f1c9ba4eb3a41151262ded0337da1a84a.png)

1. Now I find that the originals still work but the copies don’t. All the tag quality values are 'Unknown".
2. If I add tags to ‘tp\_BA\_Energy’ (my new tag provider) they also appear in the default. It’s as though my tag provider is just an alias for the default one.

Can anyone give me a pointer?

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