# New components can't be moved or modified in Perspective Designer **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81, vision, perspective\ **Created:** [June 8, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485 "2022-06-08T09:11:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![daniele1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/daniele1/32/31531_2.png) [@daniele1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/daniele1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/1 "2022-06-08T09:11:08Z")
Hi, I’m trying to add new components to a Perspective view that uses a coordinate container but after I add the compoinent and want to move it or modify it the Designer won’t let me do it. I keeps on getting back to the position where it landed and the proportion are impossible to modify. I can move components that already exist but if I copy them they are stuck. The original page is not my design, could it be that there’s some strange property that I have to turn off? I tried to press Alt while moving the objects but all it does it gets rid of the red lines. I found this behaviour is on different machines, the Vision part of the project doesn’t have this behavior. Thi is very frustrating, I hope you can help me. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/2 "2022-06-08T11:49:31Z")
Most probably aren’t going to download the video. It would be easier and better to attach the actual view. ---
**Author:** ![daniele1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/daniele1/32/31531_2.png) [@daniele1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/daniele1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/3 "2022-06-08T12:09:16Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/c/c/cc4a53045c27124df8d8569c63aa350b543b76b7.jpeg "Ignition 8.1 - New components can’t be moved or modified in Perspective Designer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d51bOmU0PSw) ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/4 "2022-06-08T12:14:49Z")
Hold SHIFT, right click on the view and COPY JSON. Post the code here, using preformatted text. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/c/6/c632fe3c438d929ade8297b379367286e88f2f4b.png) ---
**Author:** ![daniele1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/daniele1/32/31531_2.png) [@daniele1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/daniele1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/5 "2022-06-08T12:19:46Z")
The file is too long, I can’t paste it here. I copied it into a file [CALUSCO\_Json.txt](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/uploads/short-url/jfsjkjtUQf8Fd2evYHG8oZWyr8M.txt) (54.0 KB) ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/6 "2022-06-08T12:26:07Z")
Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I pasted your view (using 8.1.17) and I am able to move components around. If you don’t get much traction here you may want to call support and have them take a look. ---
**Author:** ![daniele1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/daniele1/32/31531_2.png) [@daniele1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/daniele1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/7 "2022-06-08T12:26:59Z")
Ok, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/8 "2022-06-08T12:27:55Z")
If you hold down ALT while moving does that change anything? ---
**Author:** ![victordcq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f6c823/32.png) [@victordcq](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/victordcq)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/9 "2022-06-08T12:27:58Z")
tried restarting the designer? xd ---
**Author:** ![daniele1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/daniele1/32/31531_2.png) [@daniele1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/daniele1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/10 "2022-06-08T12:29:31Z")
> [@daniele1](#): > > I tried to press Alt while moving the objects but all it does it gets rid of the red lines. No ---
**Author:** ![daniele1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/daniele1/32/31531_2.png) [@daniele1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/daniele1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/11 "2022-06-08T12:32:02Z")
I tried to copy the JSON code into a new View and the new view doesn’t display that strange behaviour, I’ m going to recreate the Views in this way ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Maria\_P](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Maria_P)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/12 "2022-09-28T11:44:22Z")
Hi @daniele1, I experience same behaviour with some perspective components. How did you solve it? just creating a new view? thanks ---
**Author:** ![daniele1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/daniele1/32/31531_2.png) [@daniele1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/daniele1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 6:38am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/13 "2022-10-03T06:38:17Z")
Hi @Maria_P , yes I created a new view, if I remember correctly in a text editor I created a file with the new view in wich a copied the JSON code of the old one and then I imported it into the project. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Skiffington1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@Ryan\_Skiffington1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ryan_Skiffington1)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/14 "2024-09-04T18:02:27Z")
Did you get this resolved after? I'm having the same issue in 8.1.43, restarting the PC some times lets me move components, seems like a bug on some PC's? ---
**Author:** ![Giovanni\_Truini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/giovanni_truini/32/67237_2.png) [@Giovanni\_Truini](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Giovanni_Truini)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/15 "2024-09-09T18:53:02Z")
I’m experiencing the same issue with Ignition 8.1.43. The only solution I’ve found so far is to close and reopen the designer. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Laubach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/steve_laubach/32/60900_2.png) [@Steve\_Laubach](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve_Laubach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-components-cant-be-moved-or-modified-in-perspective-designer/60485/16 "2024-09-09T19:13:27Z")
I've seen this issue. Usually hitting save and confirming it finished saving and then right clicking on the view and selecting "close and revert" and then reopening it gets it to behave properly again.