# New User - Silly Question

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-user-silly-question/81309>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** vision\
**Created:** [November 1, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-user-silly-question/81309 "2023-11-01T15:26:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Why\_Me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Why\_Me](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Why_Me)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-user-silly-question/81309/1 "2023-11-01T15:26:18Z")

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I'm trying to make some visible when i hover over it, it doesnt seem to work, im guessing when its "visible" property is false its actually gone so doesnt have a boundry to hover over. Is there a way around this?

Also on one of my rectangles the the outline of the shape cannot be taken away it changes with stroke style.. i dont want one is there a way to remove it?

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-user-silly-question/81309/2 "2023-11-01T15:40:16Z")

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First, is this Vision or Perspective?

- Generally, an invisible component is completely out of the chain of events. The workaround would be have a container around the space for the element and place an event on that.

- Borders are separate properties or styles. So, yes, should be possible. (If vision, make sure your properties editor is set to show **all** properties.)

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**Author:** ![Why\_Me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Why\_Me](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Why_Me)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-user-silly-question/81309/3 "2023-11-01T16:22:37Z")

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Thanks, Phil, its in vision.

I hadnt thought of adding a container that will certainly work.

The other one was a rectangle which didnt have a border. I stupidly missed something obvious of clicking none on the strokepaint.

Thanks!