# No default tag folders

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/no-default-tag-folders/54418>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [December 23, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/no-default-tag-folders/54418 "2021-12-23T00:21:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![John\_Coleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@John\_Coleman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/John_Coleman)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/no-default-tag-folders/54418/1 "2021-12-23T00:21:56Z")

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Hi, I’m new and working my way through the videos.

I Installed 8.1 gateway, and made connections to 2 ControlLogix processors successfully, connected to a SQL server, installed the designer, started a project. So far so good. In the videos, I notice in the tag browser, the default tag group includes several folders like Tags, System, All Providers. My tag browser has no folders in the default group. Did I set something up incorrectly?

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/0/2/0247bfbe05d3f0ce0757f8f4f5f6442308258672.png)

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/no-default-tag-folders/54418/2 "2021-12-23T00:26:29Z")

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Ignition v7.9 and earlier always showed all the tag providers in the tree. v8+ shows only one, based on the dropdown selection. Many IU videos are v7.9.

Probably exacerbated by not setting a default tag provider for the project you are currently looking at.