# Overlay when writing tag not showing (Vision)

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** vision\
**Created:** [June 27, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584 "2023-06-27T13:59:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![twilliams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@twilliams](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/twilliams)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/1 "2023-06-27T13:59:48Z")

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I recently upgraded a customer from V7.9 to V8.1. Before the upgrade, when I click on an object on the screen, you would get the dashed box around it while it was writing the tag to the PLC. Now w/ V8.1, it doesn't do that anymore. Any ideas why? TIA.

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/2 "2023-06-27T14:51:26Z")

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You might want to tag the question as "Vision" to attract the relevant audience.

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**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/3 "2023-06-27T20:38:16Z")

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Is it a binding? If so, the dashed rectangle won't appear if 'Overlay Opt Out' is checked:  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/2/1/211bce30068b6c8f33fc9f462da1b38286606aa2.png)

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**Author:** ![twilliams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@twilliams](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/twilliams)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/4 "2023-06-27T20:50:27Z")

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Yes. Tag is getting written. I do not have that checked.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/5 "2023-06-27T20:51:50Z")

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Check if the tag group involved has "Optimistic Writes" turned on.

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**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/6 "2023-06-27T20:53:44Z")

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What type of component is it? On my test system, I am running version 8.1.26, and [on checkboxes at least, I still get the overlay](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-get-rid-of-dotted-lines-that-appear-around-checkboxes-when-clicked/74416).

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**Author:** ![twilliams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@twilliams](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/twilliams)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/7 "2023-06-27T21:17:54Z")

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It's turned off

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**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/8 "2023-06-27T21:35:09Z")

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Hmmm; with opt-out not selected, the overlay should be there. If nobody else has an idea, I imagine [support](https://support.inductiveautomation.com/hc/en-us) will want to take a look at it to see what got messed up during the update.

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**Author:** ![twilliams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@twilliams](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/twilliams)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/9 "2023-06-28T13:48:17Z")

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I put a simple toggle button on the screen and that worked fine... The hunt continues.

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**Author:** ![twilliams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@twilliams](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/twilliams)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/10 "2023-06-28T13:49:37Z")

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A custom graphic with touch scripting.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/11 "2023-06-28T14:13:49Z")

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> [@twilliams](#):
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> custom graphic

Hmmm. I thought the write overlay was only intended to work on input components. Maybe this was a "bug" that got fixed?

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/overlay-when-writing-tag-not-showing-vision/75584/12 "2023-06-28T16:33:59Z")

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I have an educated guess as to the problem.  
In 8.0 we switched to a new QualityCode interface, but Vision has to keep using the legacy data qualities. So there's some bridging logic to allow both property types to be used for bindings, but it's currently broken. So the write\_pending quality is probably not getting broadcast from the inner binding out to the template.

OP, this is an extension of an existing bug - you should contact support so we can prioritize it higher and let you know once it's fixed.
