# Page Configuration Disappearing in Designer? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [December 8, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868 "2021-12-08T02:21:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![andrewbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@andrewbrown](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrewbrown)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/1 "2021-12-08T02:21:11Z")
Has anyone come across their perspective page configurations Disappearing after opening the designer? The page configs are still active in the back end (Can launch sessions correctly…) Takes 1 - 2 ReLaunches and it comes good. V8.1.12 Windows 10 ---
**Author:** ![andrewbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@andrewbrown](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrewbrown)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/2 "2021-12-21T04:05:32Z")
Bump?? Has multiple times since, any news? ---
**Author:** ![jespinmartin1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jespinmartin1/32/57175_2.png) [@jespinmartin1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jespinmartin1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:53am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/3 "2021-12-21T05:53:24Z")
Not in my case, I was not able to replicate what you described. ---
**Author:** ![andrewbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@andrewbrown](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrewbrown)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:03am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/4 "2021-12-21T06:03:50Z")
its strange, sometimes it will load correctly and then other times it wont. Today i had it change while i was working on other scripting within the gateway. I had fully configured all the docked views & pages about a week ago and then today they are all gone… i only realised when i went to launch a session and it came up blank… Not so bad on this particular gateway as it only has a small number of pages but some of the other gateways that have 50-100 that could be a pain. I found this in the Output console… ````auto 10:00:04.215 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Cleanup... [+2234] 10:00:04.267 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Initializing UI... [+2286] 10:00:04.370 [DesignerExecEngine-1] INFO tags.subscriptions - Changing connected quality to 'Good' 10:00:04.371 [Designer-Startup] INFO tags.manager.gwinterface - Tag poll rate changed to 250 ms 10:00:08.018 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Vision [+6037] 10:00:12.312 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Perspective [+10331] 10:00:15.492 [Designer-Startup] INFO Perspective.Designer - Starting up Perspective module. Mode: Trial 10:00:19.314 [AWT-EventQueue-0] INFO Perspective.SessionProps - Session props debug url: http://localhost:9222/devtools/inspector.html?ws=localhost:9222/devtools/page/69430FCD1D9446D0B5392BE3081CC2C3 Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.NullPointerException at com.inductiveautomation.perspective.designer.workspace.pageconfig.PagesConfigPanel$PageList.lambda$new$4(PagesConfigPanel.java:277) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.EDTUtil$ProcessQueue.run(EDTUtil.java:128) at java.desktop/java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.base/java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source) 10:00:21.363 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Symbol Factory [+19382] 10:00:21.370 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Alarm Notification [+19389] 10:00:21.517 [Browser Thread: 52039] INFO Perspective.SessionProps - store.Designer: No Java bridge was found on the current executing parent window. ``` ```` ---
**Author:** ![jespinmartin1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jespinmartin1/32/57175_2.png) [@jespinmartin1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jespinmartin1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/5 "2021-12-21T06:09:10Z")
Losing saved configurations sound severe to me. You should redirect this with support. And regarding that log, doesn’t seem to be related with your problem. ---
**Author:** ![andrewbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@andrewbrown](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrewbrown)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/6 "2021-12-21T06:10:54Z")
> [@jespinmartin1](#): > > And regarding that log, doesn’t seem to be related with your problem. Looks like a Null Pointer exception related to Page config panel list. ````Exception at com.inductiveautomation.perspective.designer.workspace.pageconfig.PagesConfigPanel$PageList.lambda$new$4(PagesConfigPanel.java:277)``` ```` ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Havlicek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nick_havlicek/32/36002_2.png) [@Nick\_Havlicek](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Nick_Havlicek)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/7 "2022-06-15T16:47:08Z")
Any updates on this? I believe this happened to me as well. ---
**Author:** ![jespinmartin1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jespinmartin1/32/57175_2.png) [@jespinmartin1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jespinmartin1)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/8 "2022-06-25T20:03:15Z")
Still happens in our projects, page config gets delete from time to time. Is annoying but if you export that particular resource and import it when it gets deleted, is the way to overcome it for now. ---
**Author:** ![Kellen\_Murray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea5d25/32.png) [@Kellen\_Murray](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kellen_Murray)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/9 "2022-10-27T18:17:42Z")
This seems to be happening on one of my gateways as well. Perspective page configurations will randomly disappear and nothing relevant shows up in the logs. ---
**Author:** ![lisa.clark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@lisa.clark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/lisa.clark)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/page-configuration-disappearing-in-designer/53868/10 "2023-02-02T18:54:48Z")
Has there been an update? this is similar to [[BUG] Page config "pages" dictionary emptied. Page Configuration lost - Ignition - Inductive Automation Forum](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-page-config-pages-dictionary-emptied-page-configuration-lost/61130)