# Periodically when adding new tags or restarting existing tags, quality shows as Uncertain\_InitialValue

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**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition80\
**Created:** [February 24, 2021, 5:16am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/periodically-when-adding-new-tags-or-restarting-existing-tags-quality-shows-as-uncertain-initialvalue/43769 "2021-02-24T05:16:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/periodically-when-adding-new-tags-or-restarting-existing-tags-quality-shows-as-uncertain-initialvalue/43769/7 "2021-02-24T21:02:54Z")

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If when these tags are stuck in Uncertain the Logix devices they belong to are in a perpetual Idle state then it’s a known issue.

Coincidentally, I think we just tracked it down and I’m going to be resurrecting one of the old threads about it to upload a module for testing.

If it’s not the Idle thing and instead you see errors in the logs when browsing/re-browsing then it’s a v32 firmware bug that has to be remedied by a program download or (reportedly) upgrading to v33.

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