# Perspective and Vision on Same Gateway **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** perspective, vision\ **Created:** [June 10, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610 "2022-06-10T13:17:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dennis.white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dennis.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dennis.white)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/1 "2022-06-10T13:17:57Z")
I just updated my Gateway to version 8.1.17. I have a vision license installed and no perspective license. I am attempting to look at a project installed by an OEM that is created in perspective. I exported the project and imported it into my Engineering Gateway. When I attempt to open the project the designer has the vision editing selection available in the browser tree, but no perspective. I attempted to create an empty test project to see what would happen, and it also has the vision selection available in the tree, but no perspective. I did press the activate Trial license button to start the perspective module installed. I am wondering if this is a licensing issue or if there is a different problem. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/2 "2022-06-10T13:21:22Z")
> [@dennis.white](#): > > I did press the activate Trial license button to start the perspective module installed. Perspective was already in your list of installed modules? Your description of the designer's behaviour suggests not. Activating trial mode **won't** install the module for you. ---
**Author:** ![dennis.white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dennis.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dennis.white)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/3 "2022-06-10T13:24:36Z")
the module is installed and I also performed a reinstall prior. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/0/3/03513ccf31aa996f5146e1dc9fdd28f60758b204.png) ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/4 "2022-06-10T13:26:07Z")
Hmm. No idea. ---
**Author:** ![dennis.white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dennis.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dennis.white)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/5 "2022-06-10T13:27:35Z")
Yeah, a little frustrating, created a new gateway on a linux VM and was able to fully access the project. But at some point I want to begin building in house gateway projects in perspective, and I am hoping to nip this in the bud before I need it. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/6 "2022-06-10T15:40:49Z")
Any errors during designer startup (check the output console)? If you go to Help → About Ignition Designer, is Perspective in the list of loaded modules? ---
**Author:** ![dennis.white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dennis.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dennis.white)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/7 "2022-06-10T15:45:47Z")
No errors in the output console related to perspective, one error about chromium feature being blocked by administration. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/9/8/98dffc5ac31638c6c61bfc09b292bf6166cda8f0.png) ---
**Author:** ![dennis.white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dennis.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dennis.white)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/8 "2022-06-10T15:47:04Z")
And a view of my project browser tree ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/4/6428096bd961915723fcca395809193b0d1fbd2c.png) ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/9 "2022-06-10T15:50:24Z")
> [@dennis.white](#): > > one error about chromium feature being blocked by administration That's probably it. Can you post the full log? Chromium is used by JxBrowser (the framework we use) to embed a web browser inside of the designer, the rest of which is rendered by Java Swing. If Chromium (and thus, JxBrowser) can't load, then the entire startup process for Perspective is probably stopping. ---
**Author:** ![dennis.white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dennis.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dennis.white)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/10 "2022-06-10T15:51:15Z")
11:43:13.523 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Downloading… [+0] 11:43:17.498 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Cleanup… [+3975] 11:43:17.503 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Initializing UI… [+3980] 11:43:17.545 [Designer-Startup] INFO tags.manager.gwinterface - Tag poll rate changed to 250 ms 11:43:17.545 [DesignerExecEngine-1] INFO tags.subscriptions - Changing connected quality to ‘Good’ 11:43:19.320 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Vision [+5797] 11:43:21.507 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Perspective [+7984] 11:43:22.757 [Designer-Startup] INFO Perspective.Designer - Starting up Perspective module. Mode: Trial 11:43:24.161 [Designer-Startup] ERROR designer.JXBrowserUtil - Failed to start Browser Engine with options com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.EngineOptions: autoplayEnabled: false chromiumDir: C:\Users\dwhite.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\7.12.1 chromiumSwitches: diskCacheSize: fileAccessFromFilesAllowed: false isGpuDisabled: false isIncognitoEnabled:false language:en-us passwordStore: remoteDebugginPort: 9222 renderingMode: OFF\_SCREEN isSandboxDisabled: false secureOriginWhitelist: isTouchMenuEnabled: false userAgent: userDataDir:C:\Users\dwhite\AppData\Local\Temp\UserData\36e5b681-ce17-4c60-b53e-b05a69a45245 webSecurityDisabled: false . com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.ChromiumBinariesExtractionException: Failed to extract Chromium binaries into C:\Users\dwhite.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\7.12.1 at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.internal.xz.XzExtractor.extract(XzExtractor.java:61) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.internal.ChromiumExtractor.lambda$extract$0(ChromiumExtractor.java:38) at java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.internal.ChromiumExtractor.extract(ChromiumExtractor.java:35) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.internal.EngineImpl.lambda$extractChromiumBinariesIfNecessary$20(EngineImpl.java:514) at java.base/java.util.Optional.orElseGet(Unknown Source) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.internal.EngineImpl.extractChromiumBinariesIfNecessary(EngineImpl.java:512) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.internal.EngineImpl.newInstance(EngineImpl.java:185) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.Engine.newInstance(Engine.java:106) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil.lambda$getOrCreateEngine$2(JxBrowserUtil.java:352) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil.runResourceLockedAction(JxBrowserUtil.java:534) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil.getOrCreateEngine(JxBrowserUtil.java:352) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil.getOrCreateEngine(JxBrowserUtil.java:397) at com.inductiveautomation.perspective.designer.DesignerHook.startup(DesignerHook.java:200) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$LoadedModule.startup(IgnitionDesigner.java:1957) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner.startupModule(IgnitionDesigner.java:1187) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner.lambda$loadProject$7(IgnitionDesigner.java:990) at java.base/java.util.stream.ForEachOps$ForEachOp$OfRef.accept(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.util.stream.ReferencePipeline$2$1.accept(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.util.ArrayList$ArrayListSpliterator.forEachRemaining(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.copyInto(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.wrapAndCopyInto(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.util.stream.ForEachOps$ForEachOp.evaluateSequential(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.util.stream.ForEachOps$ForEachOp$OfRef.evaluateSequential(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.evaluate(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.util.stream.ReferencePipeline.forEach(Unknown Source) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner.loadProject(IgnitionDesigner.java:989) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$StartupProjectDialogHandler.lambda$new$2(IgnitionDesigner.java:2021) at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Caused by: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program “C:\Users\dwhite.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\7.12.1\7zr.exe”: CreateProcess error=1260, This program is blocked by group policy. For more information, contact your system administrator at java.base/java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.lang.Runtime.exec(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.lang.Runtime.exec(Unknown Source) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.internal.xz.XZ.decompress(XZ.java:22) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.internal.xz.XzExtractor.extract(XzExtractor.java:56) … 28 common frames omitted Caused by: java.io.IOException: CreateProcess error=1260, This program is blocked by group policy. For more information, contact your system administrator at java.base/java.lang.ProcessImpl.create(Native Method) at java.base/java.lang.ProcessImpl.(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.lang.ProcessImpl.start(Unknown Source) … 34 common frames omitted 11:43:24.237 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Symbol Factory [+10714] 11:43:24.240 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Alarm Notification [+10717] 11:43:25.782 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: SFC [+12259] 11:43:26.237 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: OPC-UA [+12714] 11:43:26.237 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Enterprise Administration [+12714] 11:43:26.326 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: SQL Bridge [+12803] 11:43:27.766 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: DNP3 Driver [+14243] 11:43:27.767 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Serial Support Client [+14244] 11:43:27.769 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: OpcCom [+14246] 11:43:27.769 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Reporting [+14246] 11:43:27.787 [Designer-Startup] INFO reporting.Designer - Starting up Reporting Module. Mode: Activated 11:43:27.934 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Initializing Scripting… [+14411] 11:43:28.041 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Initializing UI… [+14518] 11:43:28.048 [Designer-Startup] INFO com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.querybrowser.QueryBrowser - No default datasource set for project. Set default in gateway and relaunch project. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/11 "2022-06-10T15:53:58Z")
> [@dennis.white](#): > > Caused by: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program “C:\Users\dwhite.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\7.12.1\7zr.exe”: CreateProcess error=1260, This program is blocked by group policy. For more information, contact your system administrator Yeah, that'll do it. JxBrowser can't set up Chromium, so the entire Perspective startup process isn't happening (since there's no point in loading the rest of Perspective if you can't actually view or interact with your Perspective resources). ---
**Author:** ![dennis.white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dennis.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dennis.white)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/12 "2022-06-10T15:54:38Z")
> [@dennis.white](#): > > “C:\Users\dwhite.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\7.12.1\7zr.exe”: CreateProcess error=1260, This program is blocked by group policy. For more information, contact your system administrator Does this look like the culprit? ---
**Author:** ![dennis.white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dennis.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dennis.white)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-and-vision-on-same-gateway/60610/13 "2022-06-10T15:55:33Z")
Oops, you already shared that, i will work with IT to see if I can release the 7zr.exe zip file controller