# Perspective Bound Custom Properties Disappear

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-bound-custom-properties-disappear/42340>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** perspective, ignition80\
**Created:** [January 17, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-bound-custom-properties-disappear/42340 "2021-01-17T22:37:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![rberghammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/rberghammer/32/7150_2.png) [@rberghammer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rberghammer)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-bound-custom-properties-disappear/42340/1 "2021-01-17T22:37:35Z")

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I understand that custom properties without a value disappear when they are not set to persistent, but the manual says the exception to this rule is bound properties. I think I found a bug that involves object type custom properties.

To recreate this issue:

1. Create a custom property on a view that is an object type.
2. Create two keys for this object and bind one of them to a tag. Leave property as transient.  
 ![ViewCustom1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/0/9/099f502656b62a021ea63e8538510c339607671d.png)
3. Save the view and close.
4. Re-open the view, only the un-bound key will still be visible.  
 ![ViewCustom2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/7/9/791934e2578aac84fa17167fbc14b93849dd9039.png)

The object still shows there is a binding, but it is not visible. If you add another key to the object, the first key will re-appear. Setting the key to persistent will fix the issue, but I still think this is a bug.

This bug only seems to effect object type properties. Array and value types seem to work fine.

This was tested in Ignition 8.1.0.

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**Author:** ![rberghammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/rberghammer/32/7150_2.png) [@rberghammer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rberghammer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-bound-custom-properties-disappear/42340/2 "2021-01-29T17:43:04Z")

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Could someone from Ignition confirm if this is a bug?

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**Author:** ![cmallonee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/cmallonee/32/6416_2.png) [@cmallonee](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/cmallonee)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-bound-custom-properties-disappear/42340/3 "2021-01-29T18:25:49Z")

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I’m not seeing this behavior in 8.1.3, but it will probably be at least Monday before I could get an 8.1.0 environment in place to verify this due to other obligations.

My Perspective Property Editor after saving/closing/opening:

 ![Screen Shot 2021-01-29 at 10.24.46AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/a/0/a0d9dfbc33457f21c959a513aff5d521ebbc4f86.png)  
 ![Screen Shot 2021-01-29 at 10.24.56AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/5/6579dcbb3948720fece7031715d95e34bbf7de72.png)

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**Author:** ![rberghammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/rberghammer/32/7150_2.png) [@rberghammer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rberghammer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-bound-custom-properties-disappear/42340/4 "2021-01-29T18:58:37Z")

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Thanks. I will try upgrading and report back.