# Perspective Datetime Picker Before Epoch **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [September 10, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-datetime-picker-before-epoch/28148 "2019-09-10T17:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![amattson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@amattson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/amattson)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-datetime-picker-before-epoch/28148/1 "2019-09-10T17:52:36Z")
Using perspective in ignition 8, is there any way to use the datetime input to select a time before 1970? In vision and elsewhere the epoch value would be signed allowing a date further back than 1970, but for the life of me I can not figure out how to get the datetime input in perspective to behave the same. Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![tstults](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@tstults](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tstults)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-datetime-picker-before-epoch/28148/2 "2019-09-11T12:29:39Z")
I have also experienced this issue and would like to know if there is a fix. ---
**Author:** ![Cas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cas](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Cas)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-datetime-picker-before-epoch/28148/3 "2020-04-12T05:57:54Z")
I’ll submit the dreaded “me too” post. I want to use this component for inputting a birthdate, and there are many times the date will be prior to 1969. Looking for a solution, because I love the component and really would like to use it for older dates. Thanks, Cas