# Perspective graphics lacking **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** perspective\ **Created:** [May 11, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476 "2022-05-11T17:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mbrown1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mbrown1/32/27786_2.png) [@mbrown1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mbrown1)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/1 "2022-05-11T17:38:47Z")
Is it just me, or are the graphics for Perspective a little cheesy, and lacking? Our customer wanted perspective screens made for his project, but was highly disappointed in the simplicity of the screens. Getting the data on the screens is easy, but there are still a lot of customers out there who want the screens to be pretty as well as functional. Why aren’t there more types of valves or meters that can be used. Also, there is no piping. I know the screen space is minimal, but we should still have the option to make it as pretty, or productive, as our customers ask. ---
**Author:** ![lrose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/lrose/32/62724_2.png) [@lrose](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/lrose)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/2 "2022-05-11T17:43:14Z")
> [@mbrown1](#): > > Also, there is no piping What version of Ignition are you on? There is most definitely piping. > [@New Feature: Perspective Piping](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-feature-perspective-piping/49919): > > Introducing Perspective Piping, a major new Coordinate Container feature available in the next nightly. Perspective Piping allows you to quickly draw pipes within Perspective. A new Coordinate Container Prop named "pipes" has been added to the coordinate container. Each pipe is an object containing a name, appearance, various appearance specific props, and an origin. An origin is the (x, y) start point for the pipe. Each origin may have any number of connections, and those connecti… I will agree that I am not a big fan of the provided first party graphics. I tend to use my own SVGs to get the look an feel that I want. However, HPHMI would say that simplistic, non-distracting graphics are better, and I think that the simple perspective components provided do a pretty good job of trying to stay in that area. As far as pretty, I would say anything is possible with enough work: > [@Project screenshots - share yours](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/project-screenshots-share-yours/513/115): > > Hi, I try to develop to High Performance HMI for P&ID pages. The system has tag search engine to find device in P&ID like DCS systems. This video is the second episode of the Geo SCADA System walkthrough. Watch full walkthrough of the project: [[Geo SCADA For Offshore - Part2: High Performance HMI (Inductive Automation Ignition - Perspective)] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w8lW19s2y0) ---
**Author:** ![andrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@andrews](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrews)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/3 "2022-05-11T18:01:52Z")
You can always 1. Make your own vector graphics in inkscape then import them in 2. There are a lot of beautiful free commercial use vector graphics online you can download and import easily. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/4 "2022-05-11T18:34:16Z")
The internal drawing tools are lacking at this point, but the ability to design incredible looking views is there now by doing as others have stated. The only thing stopping you from making non-simplistic graphics is you. ---
**Author:** ![mbrown1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mbrown1/32/27786_2.png) [@mbrown1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mbrown1)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/5 "2022-05-11T19:33:41Z")
Now that know that it exists, I am happy. I Must have missed the memo on this addition. It seems quite awesome. Here is the link to the instructions that I found. [Perspective Pipes - Ignition User Manual 8.1 - Ignition Documentation](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Perspective+Pipes?msclkid=2c4dafccd15f11ecb3275c786df58ddc) My customers will be very pleased. thanks for all of the comments. ---
**Author:** ![dkhayes117](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/dkhayes117/32/68344_2.png) [@dkhayes117](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dkhayes117)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/6 "2022-05-11T19:45:42Z")
Have you seen this thread? [KyvisLabs ApexChart Module - Ignition - Inductive Automation Forum](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/kyvislabs-apexchart-module/55263) ---
**Author:** ![mbrown1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mbrown1/32/27786_2.png) [@mbrown1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mbrown1)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/7 "2022-05-12T14:11:03Z")
I do prefer the simplistic approach. It is our customers who think that more is better. Either way, thanks for the tips. ---
**Author:** ![peter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/278dde/32.png) [@peter](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/peter)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/8 "2022-05-12T14:15:50Z")
While the customer pays the bills, in cases like this you should at least try to teach them that the world has moved on and that less is more nowadays with regards too HMIs ---
**Author:** ![mbrown1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mbrown1/32/27786_2.png) [@mbrown1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mbrown1)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/9 "2022-05-12T14:44:47Z")
We try, but some people just will not listen. They think you are either trying to get over on them, or are incompetent. No matter how busy the screens are, they still must look good. And as always, the customer is always right, and if you want to work with them in the future, you cannot piss them off today. ---
**Author:** ![dkylep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@dkylep](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dkylep)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-graphics-lacking/59476/10 "2022-05-12T17:05:07Z")
Have you seen some of the projects by @nader.chinichian and others? > [@Project screenshots - share yours](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/project-screenshots-share-yours/513/83): > > This my 3D implementation of a plant in perspective. Perspective is very fun tool. Ignition 8.0.12 [[Ignition Perspective 3D] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdinOoG_BKY)