# Perspective & Mobile

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352>\
**Category:** Ignition Early Access\
**Created:** [October 24, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352 "2018-10-24T18:21:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![eaolson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@eaolson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/eaolson)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/1 "2018-10-24T18:21:38Z")

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I don’t currently support any mobile Ignition projects, but people are becoming increasingly interested in them, so that may change and I’m trying to understand how 8 and Perspective will change things.

The upcoming Perspective Mobile module will replace the existing Mobile module. It sounds like those projects run inside the Perspective app on the mobile device and no longer launch a session that runs on the Gateway?

I believe the Perspective Browser module creates responsive applications that will work on a desktop or mobile browser with no need for a container app. Do P-Mobile and P-Browser run the _same_ project or do you have to create separate ones for mobile and browser use?

With the change to in-browser HMIs, I’m questioning the need to add Mobile to our license.

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/2 "2018-10-24T18:56:50Z")

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Perspective comes in ~~two~~ three _licenses_, which I think may be part of your confusion. The mobile-only license will only run inside of the native mobile applications (iOS and Android) and is part of the ‘upgrade’ for total-care customers who purchased Mobile module licenses in \<8.0 [[1]](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-v8-release/17247/28?u=pgriffith). The full Perspective license allows any device (desktop, phone, tablet, etc) with a modern web browser [[2]](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/question-perspective-supported-browsers/20203/2?u=pgriffith) to launch _the same_ Perspective resources/projects/views.

EDIT: Three licenses, actually - Mobile (native app) only, browser (no native app) only, or both combined. The ‘migration’ path from existing Mobile module licenses still stands - a 7.9 Mobile module license + a total care contract = a Perspective mobile-only license in 8.0.

There’s no additional effort required to “port” a Perspective window to/from desktop/mobile. There _is_ some additional, front-loaded overhead in terms of UI design, in that you have to design your projects around being able to resize from small, portrait-oriented mobile devices up to large, landscape desktop resolutions. The tools available in the Perspective designer are what helps you do this. I would definitely recommend checking out Carl’s overview of the Perspective module [[3]](https://fast.wistia.net/embed/iframe/u6ld0rycvq) and, if you have a ticket/can sweet-talk your sales rep, the [Design Principles for Creating Mobile-Responsive HMIs](https://icc.inductiveautomation.com/archive) video is also a great resource for learning about that extra design work.

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**Author:** ![WillMT10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7feea3/32.png) [@WillMT10](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/WillMT10)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/3 "2018-10-24T19:25:27Z")

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Will both Perspective modules have access to a mobile devices GPS and Camera or is that the Perspective Mobile module only?

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/4 "2018-10-24T20:23:36Z")

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There is only one Perspective module. As far as I know, only the native mobile _apps_ will expose the additional functionality (barcode scanning, image capture, ~~geolocation~~ ) but I’m not completely sure of that. ~~Launching a Perspective project through the web browser, even on a mobile device, will not get location data.~~ EDIT: Location data is accessible to browser-launched Perspective sessions as well, although native apps can get access to higher-fidelity data from the device.

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**Author:** ![eaolson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@eaolson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/eaolson)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/5 "2018-10-24T21:06:26Z")

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Yes, the demo app site has geolocation working for me in Chrome on my desktop. The barcode scanning widgets are present, but non-functional in either desktop or mobile browser, as expected. Haven’t been able to install the Perspective app yet.

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**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/6 "2018-10-24T23:16:49Z")

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> [@eaolson](#):
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> Haven't been able to install the Perspective app yet.

Because of a technical hangup or you just haven't gotten around to it yet?

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**Author:** ![eaolson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@eaolson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/eaolson)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/7 "2018-10-25T15:29:56Z")

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My is actually over 100 years old and steam-powered, so does not support the required iOS 11. But I did borrow one and try it out. Barcode scanning worked great, including Code 39 and Aztec symbologies. Cool stuff.

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**Author:** ![WillMT10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7feea3/32.png) [@WillMT10](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/WillMT10)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/8 "2018-10-25T16:11:30Z")

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PGriffith - Just to clarify, I’m assuming a Basic Care contract with upgrade protection will also allow us to upgrade a 7.9 Mobile module to Perspective Mobile?

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/9 "2018-10-25T21:36:03Z")

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Honestly, I don’t know anything more than what’s in Kevin’s original post I linked to. Your sales rep would be the best person to find out with for sure.

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**Author:** ![sharan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@sharan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sharan)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 10:24am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/10 "2022-11-29T10:24:52Z")

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I am trying to run Perspective client on a chromium based Web HMI.  
I can only see a blank background screen and nothing.  
The HMI is a Chromium based version #75 and OS is Linux Yocto.  
The server is a windows PC.Do I need to do any additional settings to run perspective client on this HMI?

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/11 "2022-11-29T13:34:19Z")

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You asked this exact question over here:

> [@Anyone run a Perspective client in Opera and/or on FreeBSD?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/anyone-run-a-perspective-client-in-opera-and-or-on-freebsd/55775/5):
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> I am trying to run a perspective project on a chromium based web HMI. I only see blank screen when I connect to the perspective weblink. Do I need to make any settings in Project or DNS Server ? HMI network settings are dynamic.

Do not double-post--it is against this [forum's rules](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/faq).

A follow-up response to a post _after a few days_ is acceptable to regain attention.

If you need immediate attention, contact support.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile/20352/12 "2022-11-29T13:35:02Z")

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