# Perspective moving pipe with component **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** perspective\ **Created:** [February 23, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256 "2024-02-23T14:49:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Emile\_Laplante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@Emile\_Laplante](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Emile_Laplante)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/1 "2024-02-23T14:49:32Z")
Hi, In perspective, is it possible to move pipes at the same time with components? When I select a pipe, I roll into pipe editing mode and I can't select components. So in a window, I can't move pipes and components together to keep the same aspect of the window. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Emile\_Laplante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@Emile\_Laplante](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Emile_Laplante)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/2 "2024-04-01T19:09:59Z")
No one can help me on this? ---
**Author:** ![basel\_Kalalib-Achabi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/basel_kalalib-achabi/32/62564_2.png) [@basel\_Kalalib-Achabi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/basel_Kalalib-Achabi)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/3 "2024-04-18T17:39:15Z")
I'm having the same problem. Moving multiple pipes or a pipe with another component is a massive pain. I know it's WIP still from what I heard but come on this is a massive waste of the designer's time and should be of high priority in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Bobby\_Chenkus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@Bobby\_Chenkus](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Bobby_Chenkus)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/4 "2024-04-19T15:16:08Z")
I wish there was a way to do this, but I believe the only way to move pipes is with the "Pipe Move Tool". ---
**Author:** ![Emile\_Laplante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@Emile\_Laplante](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Emile_Laplante)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/5 "2024-04-19T22:53:46Z")
Same as you Kalalib. This pipe moving issue is making me reconsider ignition perspective for other p&id projects unfortunatly ☹ ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/6 "2024-04-19T23:44:13Z")
Just draw pipes in inkscape, or similar, and then embed as SVG. While you can't draw within perspective, there really is a lot you can do. I'd much rather use perspective over vision now that I'm used to it. ---
**Author:** ![Emile\_Laplante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@Emile\_Laplante](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Emile_Laplante)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/7 "2024-04-19T23:59:13Z")
Hi @jlandwelen, I'm not familiar with inkspace. Do you draw a pipe template that you copy/paste all around your design in ignition? Or you firstly draw all the pipes for your page in inkspace, then you embed it the page? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/8 "2024-04-20T02:57:31Z")
I usually draw all of the pipes and then embed. ---
**Author:** ![Emile\_Laplante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@Emile\_Laplante](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Emile_Laplante)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/9 "2024-04-24T11:11:00Z")
If you need to change something simple, you need to go back in inkspace everytime?... Seems like a painfull workflow. ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/10 "2024-04-24T12:01:35Z")
Inkscape. Inkscape. Ink **scape**. > **[Draw Freely | Inkscape](https://inkscape.org/)** > > Inkscape is professional quality vector graphics software which runs on Linux, Mac OS X and Windows desktop computers. But you're correct. It is an extra layer of work. ---
**Author:** ![basel\_Kalalib-Achabi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/basel_kalalib-achabi/32/62564_2.png) [@basel\_Kalalib-Achabi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/basel_Kalalib-Achabi)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/11 "2024-05-19T16:16:12Z")
Sorry to revive this thread @Transistor, is there a way to export the pipes that I generated using the Pipe Draw Tool into SVG? The reason why I'd like them to be scalable is that with huge P&IDs, I'll be zooming in and out of the view and the Coordinate Container does not allow for me to use anything larger than my 1920x1080 page. ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/12 "2024-05-19T16:22:05Z")
Sorry, I've never tried it. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/13 "2024-05-19T17:28:44Z")
You can convert to drawing, which makes an SVG. I recommend copying the view, then converting, so you have the original if you need to edit as once you convert there is no going back to pipes. ---
**Author:** ![basel\_Kalalib-Achabi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/basel_kalalib-achabi/32/62564_2.png) [@basel\_Kalalib-Achabi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/basel_Kalalib-Achabi)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-moving-pipe-with-component/86256/14 "2024-05-20T00:03:27Z")
@jlandwerlen Thank you, this will help me a ton!