# Perspective Not Showing

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959>\
**Category:** Ignition 8.3 Early Access\
**Tags:** perspective\
**Created:** [August 19, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959 "2025-08-19T19:50:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![avaughn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/avaughn/32/38972_2.png) [@avaughn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/avaughn)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/21 "2025-08-19T20:22:51Z")

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Try removing the line between the arguments. Or try removing the first one entirely.

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**Author:** ![richhull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@richhull](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/richhull)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/22 "2025-08-19T20:25:26Z")

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It opened

```python
13:23:46.936 [Designer-Startup] ERROR WebBrowser -- BrowserEngine was not initialized. Web Browser Component can not start!
13:23:48.643 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main -- Starting module: Perspective [+4047]
13:23:49.990 [Designer-Startup] INFO Perspective.Designer -- Starting up Perspective module. Mode: Trial
13:23:49.995 DEBUG Acquiring an exclusive lock...
13:23:49.995 DEBUG Acquiring an exclusive lock...
13:23:49.995 DEBUG Checking binaries integrity in C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0...
13:23:49.995 DEBUG Using WIN64 listing...
13:23:50.044 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\libEGL.dll
13:23:50.044 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\locales\\zh-TW.pak.info
13:23:50.044 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\chrome_200_percent.pak
13:23:50.044 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\locales\\cs.pak
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13:23:50.044 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\resources.pak
13:23:50.044 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\chrome.dll.sig
13:23:50.044 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\locales\\nl.pak
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13:23:50.045 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\MEIPreload\\manifest.json
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13:23:50.046 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\locales\\am.pak.info
13:23:50.046 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\chromium.version
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13:23:50.052 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\d3dcompiler_47.dll
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13:23:50.052 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\134.0.6998.89.manifest
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13:23:50.053 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\chromium.exe
13:23:50.053 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\chrome_elf.dll
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13:23:50.054 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\vk_swiftshader.dll
13:23:50.054 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\locales\\nl.pak.info
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13:23:50.054 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\chrome_100_percent.pak
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13:23:50.054 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\icudtl.dat
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13:23:50.055 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\v8_context_snapshot.bin
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13:23:50.055 DEBUG Checked C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\locales\\ru.pak
13:23:50.059 DEBUG Checking binaries integrity... [OK]
13:23:50.059 DEBUG Releasing the exclusive lock...
13:23:50.060 DEBUG Starting server...
13:23:50.060 DEBUG Starting server at port 54019... [OK]
13:23:50.060 DEBUG Accepting connections...
13:23:50.062 DEBUG Starting chromium process...
13:23:50.062 DEBUG __COMPAT_LAYER variable detected: ElevateCreateProcess
13:23:50.062 DEBUG C:\Users\rhull\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\8.5.0\chromium.exe --port=54019 --pid=28764 --browsercore --no-default-browser-check --off-screen --lang=en-us --remote-debugging-port=9222 --hung-render-delay-seconds=15 --incognito --proprietary-features=0 --user-data-dir=C:\Users\rhull\AppData\Local\Temp\JxBrowser-UserData-6a95fbe0-62e2-4302-9455-cb76b812531e --dpi-awareness=per-monitor-aware --disable-fill-background --disable-direct-composition --crash-dump-dir=C:\Users\rhull\AppData\Local\JxBrowser\8.5.0\CrashReports --disable-background-networking --disable-sync --disable-features=OptimizationHintsFetching --disable-component-update --do-not-de-elevate 
13:23:50.068 DEBUG Starting chromium process... [OK]
13:23:50.157 DEBUG [Chromium] [0819/132350.157:INFO:compatibility_mode.cc(86)] Actual Windows version: 10.0.26100
13:23:50.157 DEBUG [Chromium] [0819/132350.157:INFO:compatibility_mode.cc(93)] Simulated Windows version: 10.0.26100
13:23:50.157 DEBUG [Chromium] [0819/132350.157:INFO:compatibility_mode.cc(62)] Compatibility environment variable: ElevateCreateProcess
13:23:50.207 DEBUG Accepting connection...
13:23:50.207 DEBUG RPC thread started: id = 113, type = BROWSER
13:23:50.208 DEBUG Product binding call stack:
java.lang.Thread
com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.internal.EngineImpl
com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.Engine
com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil
com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil
com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil
com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil
com.inductiveautomation.perspective.designer.DesignerHook
com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$LoadedModule
com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner
com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner
com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$StartupProjectDialogHandler
java.lang.Thread

13:23:50.208 DEBUG Accepted: RpcConnection [id = 07db8867-3a12-461a-9336-aae52c6d4e1e; type = BROWSER]
13:23:50.208 DEBUG > [2:69]: rpc.EngineFactory.ApplyLicense [product_name: "JxBrowser" product_version: "8.5.0" stack_trace: *****key:*****]
13:23:50.244 DEBUG [Chromium] [31260:30376:0819/132350.244:WARNING:account_consistency_mode_manager.cc(77)] Desktop Identity Consistency cannot be enabled as no OAuth client ID and client secret have been configured.
13:23:50.286 DEBUG Accepting connection...
13:23:50.287 DEBUG RPC thread started: id = 116, type = NETWORK_SERVICE
13:23:50.287 DEBUG Accepted: RpcConnection [id = 4237df88-5885-4d27-9521-b1d7dedc7c1f; type = NETWORK_SERVICE]
13:23:50.378 DEBUG [Chromium] [14552:7484:0819/132350.378:WARNING:viz_main_impl.cc(85)] VizNullHypothesis is disabled (not a warning)
13:23:50.378 DEBUG [Chromium] [14552:7484:0819/132350.378:INFO:content_gpu_client.cc(47)] ContentGpuClient::PostCompositorThreadCreated
13:23:50.461 DEBUG Closing RPC thread...
13:23:50.461 DEBUG The connection has been terminated.
13:23:50.462 DEBUG Closing RPC thread... [OK]
13:23:50.463 DEBUG Closing RPC thread...
13:23:50.463 DEBUG Closing RPC thread... [OK]
13:23:50.472 DEBUG Chromium process exit code: -2,147,483,645
13:23:50.498 DEBUG Stopping server...
13:23:50.498 DEBUG Stopping server... [OK]

```

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**Author:** ![avaughn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/avaughn/32/38972_2.png) [@avaughn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/avaughn)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/23 "2025-08-19T20:31:50Z")

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🤔 Okay. Let me look into this some more and compare to my DEBUG output.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/24 "2025-08-19T20:32:45Z")

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Have you also verified that there’s no AV interfering with the process creation? Also mentioned in the thread I linked

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/25 "2025-08-19T20:34:10Z")

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Not yet I could try it might take a while since I have to get online with the IT department

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/26 "2025-08-19T20:41:16Z")

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AV is the most common cause for the JxBrowser Engine to crash, so it would be worth looking into.

> **[Frequently encountered issues](https://teamdev.com/jxbrowser/docs/guides/troubleshooting/issues/)**
>
> This guide describes how to troubleshoot frequently encountered issues in JxBrowser.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/27 "2025-08-19T20:42:16Z")

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I just got off the phone with them it might take a moment for them to get it done. I’ll report back once it is done.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/28 "2025-08-19T20:50:36Z")

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Sounds good.

From this in the log output, it does seem like something external is likely interfering and causing the thread and connection to be terminated.

```python
13:23:50.461 DEBUG Closing RPC thread...
13:23:50.461 DEBUG The connection has been terminated.
13:23:50.462 DEBUG Closing RPC thread... [OK]
13:23:50.463 DEBUG Closing RPC thread...
13:23:50.463 DEBUG Closing RPC thread... [OK]
13:23:50.472 DEBUG Chromium process exit code: -2,147,483,645
13:23:50.498 DEBUG Stopping server...
13:23:50.498 DEBUG Stopping server... [OK]

```

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/29 "2025-08-19T21:12:23Z")

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Is there a way to identify what is stopping it?

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/30 "2025-08-19T21:13:29Z")

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There might be a Chromium crash dump in this directory according to your logs. This might contain more information

`C:\Users\rhull\AppData\Local\JxBrowser\8.5.0\CrashReports`

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/31 "2025-08-19T21:23:01Z")

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what should I be looking for? I am using WinDbg to read the DMP files.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/32 "2025-08-19T21:27:29Z")

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To be honest, I’ve never run into a scenario where it’s been necessary to look at them.

Looking into the below environment variable makes me think there could be something permissions related possibly or AV as mentioned already. I’m not sure how/if either would show in the crash dump though.

`Compatibility environment variable: ElevateCreateProcess`

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/33 "2025-08-19T21:28:31Z")

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I get this after analyzing:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/c/2/c2b9970c98807b36fce46e6c3f2f1cd25f2fa7d8.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/8/68a253aa7aa71f7de5786eda6a0aba7ea80bd493.png)

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/34 "2025-08-19T21:43:16Z")

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I just got off the phone with IT and the AV is disabled. However they did point out that the software would have flagged and logged the blockage, but there is not logging of it so I dont think its a software issue.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/36 "2025-08-19T21:52:20Z")

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Never mind the AV is the culprit. Ill have to test it though

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/37 "2025-08-19T21:58:44Z")

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Glad to hear it appears to be resolved!

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/38 "2025-08-19T22:00:32Z")

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Not quiet yet bacause I still cant get it even with the AV disabled. Something else is involved. As a just in case I am reinstalling it.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/39 "2025-08-19T22:02:52Z")

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Might be worth trying the other installer if this doesn’t work, try the zip instead of the executable or vice versa. This is a strange issue for sure and one I haven’t run into quite yet.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/40 "2025-08-19T22:05:09Z")

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I tried the zip and I am missing the other tabs on the gateway

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/2/9/291ac20e29200855a6535c1d662f1505f08146ed.png)

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-not-showing/109959/41 "2025-08-19T22:06:17Z")

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