# Perspective Numeric Entry Default Value Out of Acceptable Range

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-numeric-entry-default-value-out-of-acceptable-range/65782>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition81, perspective\
**Created:** [October 27, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-numeric-entry-default-value-out-of-acceptable-range/65782 "2022-10-27T19:52:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![dominicfabiilli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@dominicfabiilli](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dominicfabiilli)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-numeric-entry-default-value-out-of-acceptable-range/65782/1 "2022-10-27T19:52:31Z")

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I have a Perspective Numeric Entry with bounds from 1 to 100.  
No matter the entry mode selected, I can remove ALL digits and commit the input value.  
This results in a blank string value "" in the component.  
BUT the actual graphic shows a 0.  
I would rather have this revert back to the last acceptable value that was entered/displayed.

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/e/3/e3bb4e0de30649146b9876115b3d9b434e32828a.png)

Has anyone else experienced this?  
Are there any known workarounds?  
I can think of a few but they seem a little complicated.

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-numeric-entry-default-value-out-of-acceptable-range/65782/2 "2022-10-27T20:56:55Z")

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The Numeric Entry Field component works correctly on 8.1.22.

- If I enter an out-of-range number it reverts to the previous in-range number.
- If I delete all the digits it reverts to the previous number.
- If I change the inputBounds to exclude the current value it does not automatically correct. (You would have to fix that in code.)

What version are you running?

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**Author:** ![victordcq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f6c823/32.png) [@victordcq](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/victordcq)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 7:12am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-numeric-entry-default-value-out-of-acceptable-range/65782/3 "2022-10-28T07:12:23Z")

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Because of the format property, "" will always show 0 in the field, but the actualy value is still ""...  
This is sometimes confusing (espessialy when dealing with values near 0 ) so avoid leaving the value "" or dont use the format (set it to none (then your placeholder will also be visible))

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**Author:** ![dominicfabiilli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@dominicfabiilli](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dominicfabiilli)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-numeric-entry-default-value-out-of-acceptable-range/65782/4 "2022-11-02T13:25:16Z")

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Thanks for the insights. And the version I am using is 8.1.20.  
I will look into this again once the server is upgraded.