# Perspective Workstation Redundancy Without Repeated Login

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-workstation-redundancy-without-repeated-login/85121>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** vision, perspective\
**Created:** [February 1, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-workstation-redundancy-without-repeated-login/85121 "2024-02-01T21:00:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sara\_Kalaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sara\_Kalaf](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Sara_Kalaf)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-workstation-redundancy-without-repeated-login/85121/1 "2024-02-01T21:00:41Z")

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Hey everybody,

I've got a question for those of you with more experience with Perspective Workstation.

So normally when failover to a redundant server occurs when using Ignition Perspective in a browser, the user is prompted to log in again. We are working with a customer that is not a fan of that feature, as it would be an absolute pain to re-log in on all the standalone stations on their floor. Would they also have to re-log in if the system was being run using Perspective Workstation instead? Or does it work more like Vision, with a seamless failover?

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**Author:** ![Matrix\_Engineering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matrix_engineering/32/19781_2.png) [@Matrix\_Engineering](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Matrix_Engineering)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-workstation-redundancy-without-repeated-login/85121/2 "2024-02-02T00:23:01Z")

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> [@Perspective & Redundancy/Failover](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-redundancy-failover/27903/5):
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> Perspective Workstation supports launching directly against the backup if the master is down and will return to the master when it comes back online. One caveat here is workstation caches the address to the backup, so if it has changed since the last time workstation was opened and was able to communicate with the master it will fail, though that should be an unlikely scenario. Hope that helps, JJ Coffman

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-workstation-redundancy-without-repeated-login/85121/3 "2024-02-02T00:36:55Z")

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As far as _authentication_ is concerned, you're currently at the mercy of the identity provider. Ignition's builtin IdP doesn't have any kind of local persistence, and likely won't ever. A third party IdP might be able to keep track of things, though.

Think about it the other way: From the backup gateway's... point of view (🕶 ) it just started and it gets a new connection. This session might say that it's authorized/authenticated already - but how is the backup supposed to "trust" that?

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**Author:** ![Sara\_Kalaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sara\_Kalaf](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Sara_Kalaf)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-workstation-redundancy-without-repeated-login/85121/4 "2024-02-02T15:01:43Z")

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Good explanation- it does make a lot of sense that they'd have it set up this way.

That being said, I was doing some additional research and found this about passing IdP metadata to the redundant backup. Could that include the login information of the current user, or is this just in reference to other related IdP settings?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/3/8/387d6cf4f703392a898261ef252cb7306d8b8351.png)

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**Author:** ![Sara\_Kalaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sara\_Kalaf](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Sara_Kalaf)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-workstation-redundancy-without-repeated-login/85121/5 "2024-02-02T15:03:20Z")

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Or rather, does this just allow you to define the metadata differently on the backup?