# PerspectiveWorkstation on Headless Raspberry PI **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81, perspective\ **Created:** [June 18, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916 "2022-06-18T00:35:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MicroVAX\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/microvax_ii/32/7319_2.png) [@MicroVAX\_II](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MicroVAX_II)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/1 "2022-06-18T00:35:14Z")
Hope all is well, I am trying to run the perspective workstation on a headless raspberry pi. Below are the services/scripts and errors that launch perspectiveworkstation. I know my services are working because the commented-out chromium launches as my test. Also note, if the service is disabled I receive the same error when running sh ~/perspectiveworkstation/perspectiveworkstation.desktop from CLI > sh ~/perspectiveworkstation/perspectiveworkstation.desktop > Error > perspectiveworkstation.desktop: 1: [Desktop: not found > perspectiveworkstation.desktop: 7: Workstation: not found > perspectiveworkstation.desktop: 8: -c: not found Inside rpik.service > [Unit] > Description=Chromium Kiosk Service > After=rpik-xorg.service network-online.target > > [Service] > Environment=DISPLAY=:0.0 > Environment=XAUTHORITY=/home/pi/.Xauthority > StandardOutput=journal > Type=simple > ExecStart=/bin/bash /home/pi/rpik.sh > Restart=always > RestartSec=5 > User=pi > Group=pi > > [Install] > WantedBy=multi-user.target Inside rpik.sh > #!/usr/bin/env bash > > xset s noblank > xset s off > xset -dpms > > unclutter -idle 0.5 -root & > > #Comment out sh when testing with chromium > #/usr/bin/chromium-browser --disable-infobars --kiosk --incognito --window-position=0,0 > sh ~/perspectiveworkstation/perspectiveworkstation.desktop ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/2 "2022-06-18T00:53:40Z")
What exactly are you expecting to happen when you run something with a GUI in a headless environment? ---
**Author:** ![MicroVAX\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/microvax_ii/32/7319_2.png) [@MicroVAX\_II](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MicroVAX_II)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/3 "2022-06-18T01:28:01Z")
The Xorg server is set for display=0.0 with the matchbox window manager. There is no desktop but you can bring up chromium just like a desktop. [https://reelyactive.github.io/diy/pi-kiosk/](https://reelyactive.github.io/diy/pi-kiosk/) > ``` > sudo apt-get -y install --no-install-recommends xserver-xorg x11-xserver-utils x11-apps > sudo apt-get -y install --no-install-recommends xinit > sudo apt-get -y install matchbox-window-manager xautomation unclutter > sudo apt-get -y install chromium-browser > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/4 "2022-06-18T01:35:42Z")
Ok, I see, not what I thought you meant by headless. Well the most obvious problem I see is that you’re trying to execute a .desktop file and these just simply aren’t executable files. It describes things like the name, description, icon, and how to actually execute the program. There should be a `perspectiveworkstation.sh` file that actually launches it and runs the embedded Java runtime with some workstation JAR file as an argument. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/5 "2022-06-18T01:38:29Z")
I should also note that I don’t know for sure if JavaFX, which is what Perspective Workstation is built in, will run under this minimal Xorg setup or not. ---
**Author:** ![MicroVAX\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/microvax_ii/32/7319_2.png) [@MicroVAX\_II](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MicroVAX_II)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 3:47am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/6 "2022-06-18T03:47:20Z")
10-4, perspectiveworkstation.sh executes without any error codes but does not open a display. Trying my rpi4 with a desktop to get something running, then disable the desktop and execute the xorg server. Chromium has issues, especially when it can’t connect to the host. My main goal is to create a “Ignition Panelview” I’ll need to try [Onlogic](https://www.onlogic.com/computers/panel-pc/) to see if it boots directly to ignition. ---
**Author:** ![MicroVAX\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/microvax_ii/32/7319_2.png) [@MicroVAX\_II](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MicroVAX_II)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/7 "2022-06-18T04:05:43Z")
Tried rpi4 full desktop, executing perspectiveworkstation.sh as sudo and not sudo, no reaction. I’ll have to play more with it tomorrow. Does anyone know if it executes with an arm and openjdk, openjfx…? ---
**Author:** ![MicroVAX\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/microvax_ii/32/7319_2.png) [@MicroVAX\_II](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MicroVAX_II)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/8 "2022-06-18T04:19:22Z")
I spun up a fresh Linux mint x64 (LMDE) vm and executed perspectiveworkstation.desktop and it worked like a charm. Must be the processor…packages? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/9 "2022-06-18T12:02:43Z")
Oh… I can’t believe I overlooked that. There’s no support for ARM in the launchers/workstation/designer right now. Hoping that changes when we get on JDK 17… we have the runtime right now but it’s JavaFX and JXBrowser that are the issue, I think. ---
**Author:** ![MicroVAX\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/microvax_ii/32/7319_2.png) [@MicroVAX\_II](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MicroVAX_II)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/10 "2022-06-19T10:30:17Z")
Thanks for the help! Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![mazeyrat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mazeyrat/32/10955_2.png) [@mazeyrat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mazeyrat)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/11 "2022-06-21T19:04:57Z")
> Weekly Changelog: 8.1.19-b20220620 > > ## Infrastructure > > **6159: Upgrade the launchers to javaFX 17** > The Designer Launcher, Vision Client Launcher, and Perspective Workstation now use JavaFX 17.0.2 if this change included in **Linux ARM 64bits** installer ? Can we use **Launchers, Vision and Perspective workstation** on **raspberry PI with Ubuntu Desktop 22.04 LTS**? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/12 "2022-06-21T19:06:15Z")
@jcoffman could probably answer that. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/13 "2022-06-21T19:19:41Z")
~~You still won’t have full compatibility because JxBrowser won’t work, but I think the launchers are expected to.~~ I was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/14 "2022-06-21T19:28:31Z")
I don’t see new platform/arch combos added by this PR, so I _wouldn’t_ expect it to work on anything but the currently supported platforms. But 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![jcoffman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jcoffman/32/6429_2.png) [@jcoffman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jcoffman)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/15 "2022-06-22T16:08:20Z")
> if this change included in **Linux ARM 64bits** installer ? > > Can we use **Launchers, Vision and Perspective workstation** on **raspberry PI with Ubuntu Desktop 22.04 LTS**? This doesn't change the supported platforms, it just bumps the version of JavaFX we use within the installers, launchers, and Workstation. There is still a ticket to add support to this which is blocked by a ticket which is in active development at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![mazeyrat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mazeyrat/32/10955_2.png) [@mazeyrat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mazeyrat)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/16 "2022-06-22T16:35:24Z")
Ok I see, Java, arm, JavaFx, JxBrowser with native code… All the planets needs to be aligned ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/17 "2022-06-22T16:36:58Z")
Yes, lots of moving parts. ---
**Author:** ![michael.flagler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/michael.flagler/32/26272_2.png) [@michael.flagler](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.flagler)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/18 "2022-06-22T22:12:19Z")
We use OnLogic IGN100s on lots of our projects as a “PanelView Replacement”. Running Ubuntu 20.04 and we load our own copy of Ubuntu and Ignition on it because the one that came pre-imaged didn’t work for us because we needed different touchscreen software and OnLogic wasn’t installing Ignition in the default folder, so the first time we tried upgrading it, we accidentally installed a 2nd copy and broke things. So now we have our own Ubuntu image with Ignition pre-installed that we use. You can set Perspective Workstation or Vision Client to auto-launch (create a shortcut on the desktop for your project, then copy the .desktop file to the ~/.config/autorun (or ~/.config/autostart - I can’t remember the exact folder) and it will run it on a reboot. ---
**Author:** ![Arnaud\_Declerck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/arnaud_declerck/32/44872_2.png) [@Arnaud\_Declerck](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Arnaud_Declerck)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:56am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/19 "2022-06-23T04:56:39Z")
Hi @michael.flagler, Thanks for your feedback. Can you tell use more about the hardware configuration used on those ign100 (CPU, Ram,...) Thanks ---
**Author:** ![michael.flagler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/michael.flagler/32/26272_2.png) [@michael.flagler](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.flagler)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspectiveworkstation-on-headless-raspberry-pi/60916/20 "2022-06-23T14:50:38Z")
We’re just using the base configuration of like 4GB of RAM and a 64GB SSD. You can’t select a processor, but the one included is an Intel Pentium N4200 which has 4 cores running at 1.1GHz. There’s a lot of other models that work just fine too and the OnLogic hardware has been working great. Only time we switch is if we need one for hazardous areas (Class I Div 2)