# Possible to change minimum designer grid size from 5 to lower?

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**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [March 25, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/possible-to-change-minimum-designer-grid-size-from-5-to-lower/23559 "2019-03-25T03:34:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![richardNZ15](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/richardnz15/32/33373_2.png) [@richardNZ15](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/richardNZ15)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/possible-to-change-minimum-designer-grid-size-from-5-to-lower/23559/1 "2019-03-25T03:34:21Z")

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I like using the snap to grid with grid set to 5, but i have a need to go even smaller for creating a valve template.  
Is it possible to go smaller than 5? Maybe my editing a config file somewhere? Would be handy if we could choose whatever grid size we want depending on the application.

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**Author:** ![mrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mrogers/32/4110_2.png) [@mrogers](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mrogers)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/possible-to-change-minimum-designer-grid-size-from-5-to-lower/23559/2 "2019-03-25T15:12:37Z")

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I don’t think so, but you can always turn the snap-to off and do it manually, plus there is the button to align components X pixels away from each other.

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**Author:** ![mark.sluser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mark.sluser/32/19753_2.png) [@mark.sluser](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mark.sluser)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/possible-to-change-minimum-designer-grid-size-from-5-to-lower/23559/3 "2019-06-17T21:57:33Z")

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When doing layouts it is better to use a 8 point grid system rather than a 10 (or 5). This is because shapes often get divided and doubled and 8 is a power of 2 and is close to 10.  
[Intro to The 8-Point Grid System](https://builttoadapt.io/intro-to-the-8-point-grid-system-d2573cde8632)

Inductive, please let us choose the grid size.

-Mark

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**Author:** ![valec7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/258eb7/32.png) [@valec7](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/valec7)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/possible-to-change-minimum-designer-grid-size-from-5-to-lower/23559/4 "2023-12-13T16:35:24Z")

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I would also like to change the grid size to a custom value, or at least the option to set the grid to 4 pixels. Easier to align and center items and layouts.