# Production Model Missing from designer

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462>\
**Category:** 3rd Party Modules\
**Tags:** sepasoft, ignition81\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462 "2024-11-11T11:39:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Gaurav.Shitole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/gaurav.shitole/32/72050_2.png) [@Gaurav.Shitole](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gaurav.Shitole)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/1 "2024-11-11T11:39:15Z")

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Hello all,

I’ve set up Ignition and configured it to use the MES module, but I’m running into an issue where the **Production Model** is missing from my Designer. Here’s the setup I’ve followed:

1. Installed MES modules in sequence as described (Changeover module followed by Production).
2. Created the **MES schema** in MySQL.
3. Added a **MySQL connection** on the Ignition Gateway, pointing to the MES schema (connection shows as valid).
4. Configured **MES module settings** on the Gateway.
5. Confirmed that the **MES schema** in MySQL now has the appropriate tables.

However, when I open my Designer, the **Production Model** does not appear.

Here’s a screenshot showing the missing Production Model:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/9/a/9abdd7270e8376530cd426d6d212fe382d4dd115.png)

Any insights into why the Production Model might be missing or steps I could take to troubleshoot this? Thanks in advance for any help!

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**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/2 "2024-11-11T13:47:09Z")

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In order to see the production model you have to actually add its component to a view and configure it from there. I find the vision one is easier to use and works consistently. There are occasions where the perspective components don't always save configs.

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**Author:** ![Gaurav.Shitole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/gaurav.shitole/32/72050_2.png) [@Gaurav.Shitole](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gaurav.Shitole)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/3 "2024-11-11T21:56:47Z")

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I did that. But Sepasoft shows in their videos Production Module gets added in the Project Browser just like Transaction Group. From there one can enable/disbale the Production module, which I am not able to do.  
Recipe configuration, variance enable etc everything available their at one place there. I just don't see that module in my browser. Tried restaring module couple of times

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**Author:** ![schenk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@schenk](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/schenk)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/4 "2024-11-11T22:13:03Z")

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> [@Gaurav.Shitole](#):
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> Production Module gets added in the Project Browser

That's no longer true for MES 3.0. You'll have to follow what @Benjamin_Furlani recommended.

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**Author:** ![Gaurav.Shitole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/gaurav.shitole/32/72050_2.png) [@Gaurav.Shitole](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gaurav.Shitole)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/5 "2024-11-11T22:34:44Z")

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Oh thank you for the response. Is there anything one could follow to do configuration with 3.0 then? Such as variance, recipe configurations etc.

How a beginner should start with changeover module?

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**Author:** ![schenk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@schenk](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/schenk)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/6 "2024-11-11T22:48:21Z")

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Their Production Model was moved out of the Project Browser, but it seems like the components are functionally the same as what it was. You could probably follow the videos and use the components in place of the Project Browser 🤷‍♂️

As far as other learning, I would start with their documentation for the [module](https://docs.sepasoft.com/articles/#!user-manual/settings-and-changeover), and the [components](https://docs.sepasoft.com/articles/#!user-manual/settings-and-changeover-components) required.

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**Author:** ![srinivasan\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@srinivasan\_s](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/srinivasan_s)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:38am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/7 "2025-06-06T05:38:56Z")

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Hi @Gaurav.Shitole ,

can you please tell the production model component name ? not able to find one

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**Author:** ![jesse.records](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jesse.records/32/10960_2.png) [@jesse.records](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jesse.records)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/8 "2025-06-06T18:08:58Z")

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@srinivasan_s In 3.0 it is contained in the Equipment Manager component for both Vision and Perspective.

> **[Articles](https://docs.sepasoft.com/articles/#!user-manual/mes-equipment-manager-perspective)**

> **[Articles](https://docs.sepasoft.com/articles/#!user-manual/mes-equipment-manager)**

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**Author:** ![srinivasan\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@srinivasan\_s](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/srinivasan_s)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 9:03am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/production-model-missing-from-designer/98462/9 "2025-06-10T09:03:32Z")

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Thank you. Will check
