# Programmatically Update Third-Party Modules **URL:** \ **Category:** Module Development\ **Created:** [March 29, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408 "2025-03-29T03:28:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/21 "2025-03-31T23:47:54Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > Yeah, but I can't even find a link to it any more. Yeah, not sure where the docs went, but the (easiest) part is still published in at least one SDK example. Basically, duplicate the below in a new Maven subproject or whatever Maven calls it: > Then (I'll reference IntelliJ here, other IDEs you're on your own): 1. Create a new "Run Configuration", using an appropriate Java version. 2. Use your newly generated subproject as the classpath (so your IDE knows where to load up dependencies) 3. Use `com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.DesignerStartupHook` as your main class 4. You'll need a bunch of VM flags, none of which I'm going to go into detail to explain: ```python --add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.tree=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.action=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/com.apple.eawt=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.image=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.shell=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.windows=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing.table=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.print=ALL-UNNAMED -Dscadarail.version=dev -Dsr.gateway=localhost:8088 ``` That should be about bare minimum to get you a succesful designer launch, and theoretically if you set your local `designer-launcher` POM up correctly it's going to load your in-dev module code, _not_ what the gateway delivers. Make sure that your gateway is the same version as whatever your Maven setup is declaring as a dependency, or _weird_ side effects will result. Also, no guarantees this didn't work on my machine because of some weird locally cached Maven artifacts or something - but that's the theory and it works on my machine 🤷 ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/22 "2025-03-31T23:52:47Z")
I worked through this earlier and got stuck, I ended up with something close. I ended up with these flags: ```python --add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.tree=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.action=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/com.apple.eawt=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.image=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.shell=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.windows=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing.table=ALL-UNNAMED --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.print=ALL-UNNAMED -Djavaws.ignition.debug=true -Djavaws.ignition.loglevel=INFO -Dsr.gateway=localhost:8088 -Dignition.version=dev ``` `ignition.version` vs `scadarail.version` being the only real difference it seems. Didn't get it working though - fails to load projects: ```python 16:51:00.579 [Designer-Startup] ERROR com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.gui.ErrorUtil -- Error loading project. org.python.core.PyException: LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding 'UTF-8' at org.python.core.codecs$CodecState.lookup(codecs.java:1701) at org.python.core.codecs$CodecState.setDefaultEncoding(codecs.java:1675) at org.python.core.codecs.setDefaultEncoding(codecs.java:42) at org.python.core.PySystemState.setdefaultencoding(PySystemState.java:544) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.script.ScriptManager.createUtf8PySystemState(ScriptManager.java:261) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.script.ScriptManager.(ScriptManager.java:135) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.script.ScriptManager.(ScriptManager.java:114) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.DesignerContextImpl.(DesignerContextImpl.java:164) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner.loadProject(IgnitionDesigner.java:971) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$StartupProjectDialogHandler.lambda$new$2(IgnitionDesigner.java:2073) at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:840) ``` not sure if it's just a problem with my Docker setup or what. I gave up. Attached my run file if somebody wants to play with it. [Ignition Designer.run.xml](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/uploads/short-url/A3OQUnVqeq6MqXAgyWUH2L4agAk.xml) (1.8 KB) ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/23 "2025-03-31T23:54:10Z")
Ah, that's probably what `-DlibPath=/FullyQualifiedPathToIgnitionInstallDirectory/user-lib/pylib` is for in my saved run configurations. I stopped at a splash screen, didn't actually try to open a project. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/24 "2025-03-31T23:54:46Z")
yeah, that was my thought too, and then I didn't want to figure out how to point at a pylib folder and explain it 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/25 "2025-03-31T23:57:43Z")
Someone enterprising should be able to connect the dots. Either way, I'll talk to the docs team and see if we can't reconstruct that old page somewhere, at least for the designer; it's much better user experience. ---
**Author:** ![bmusson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/bmusson/32/87530_2.png) [@bmusson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bmusson)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:33am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/26 "2025-04-01T00:33:39Z")
What if I also need to load first-party modules? ![idea64_HUHaPsNQLQ](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/3/7/37d0d22f72c7af39e429a36f8f9090384731430e.png) Gradle config: ```kotlin plugins { application } repositories { mavenCentral() maven { url = uri("https://nexus.inductiveautomation.com/repository/public/") } } dependencies { implementation("com.inductiveautomation.ignitionsdk:designer-api:8.1.47") } application { mainClass.set("com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.DesignerStartupHook") } tasks.withType { jvmArgs = listOf( "--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.tree=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.base/sun.security.action=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/com.apple.eawt=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.image=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.shell=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.windows=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing.table=ALL-UNNAMED", "--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.print=ALL-UNNAMED", "-Djavaws.ignition.debug=true", "-Djavaws.ignition.loglevel=INFO", "-Dsr.gateway=localhost:8088", "-Dignition.version=dev", "-Dautologin.username=admin", "-Dautologin.password=password", "-DlibPath=C:\\Program Files\\Inductive Automation\\Ignition\\user-lib\\pylib" ) } ``` ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/27 "2025-04-01T00:35:04Z")
Those should be available by actually being installed in the Ignition Gateway you're launching against. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/28 "2025-04-01T00:39:00Z")
I'm not really sure what you've got going on with that Gradle file. We're talking about creating an IntelliJ run configuration and launching from that. The Maven module or Gradle module would only be used as a target for the run config for its class path - to get the `designer-api` and `vision-designer-api` artifacts from the SDK and any of the dependencies of your local code you actually want to be running. ---
**Author:** ![bmusson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/bmusson/32/87530_2.png) [@bmusson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bmusson)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:48am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/29 "2025-04-01T00:48:50Z")
Gotcha, I’m mixing and matching concepts here. I’ll revisit this later when I’m not rushing. The config does start a “working” designer, it just doesn’t load any modules from the gateway 🤷🏻‍♂️. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/30 "2025-04-01T00:53:04Z")
Hmm, yeah, once I fix my pylib problem I think I get a similar kind of error even via the launch configs. Only Vision works, and I wonder if that's because its DesignerModuleHook is on the class path via these two SDK artifacts. ---
**Author:** ![Porter\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Porter\_Ellis](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Porter_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/31 "2025-04-09T15:21:37Z")
I know this dependency is relevant, but I for some reason my IntelliJ cannot resolve it: ```python com.inductiveautomation.ignition.examples ce-designer 1.8.0 ``` I tried running the configuration without it and including everything else, but I get this error: ```python Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.lang.CharSequence.length()" because "this.text" is null at java.base/java.util.regex.Matcher.getTextLength(Matcher.java:1806) at java.base/java.util.regex.Matcher.reset(Matcher.java:459) at java.base/java.util.regex.Matcher.(Matcher.java:255) at java.base/java.util.regex.Pattern.matcher(Pattern.java:1180) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.launch.GatewayAddress.parse(GatewayAddress.java:57) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.DesignerStartupHook.main(DesignerStartupHook.java:77) ``` ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/32 "2025-04-09T15:24:03Z")
That's not related to the error. `ce-designer` is the artifact ID of that example module - **c** lient **e** xample - **designer** scope. The error you're getting is because we can't parse a gateway address: `at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.launch.GatewayAddress.parse(GatewayAddress.java:57)` Which most likely means you didn't provide one. Notice the long list of **VM** options (not program arguments!) - at the end is `-Dsr.gateway=localhost:8088`; make sure you're both passing that parameter and giving it a real address. ---
**Author:** ![Porter\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Porter\_Ellis](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Porter_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/33 "2025-04-09T21:46:15Z")
So am I ok to remove the errored dependency if I am not using anything with the example designer module? ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/34 "2025-04-09T22:13:52Z")
I have, honestly, no idea what you're trying to do. We're way down in the weeds here. Kevin and I went on a tangent where we **very vaguely** described the process someone else could follow to get an IDE launcher designer as a third party. If you're just trying to do that, as is, sure, delete the dependency, I guess? But it seems much more likely that you're trying to use that capability _while also loading your custom module code_, in which case you should copy the entire `pom.xml` and subproject structure I linked above, but bring it in to your own build and make the necessary changes to bring in your artifact. I don't have a concrete set of steps to guide you through this because _I've never had to do it_, and the manual page that, while heavily outdated, at least walked through the process...no longer exists. ---
**Author:** ![Porter\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Porter\_Ellis](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Porter_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/35 "2025-04-09T22:55:26Z")
I am trying to launch the Designer and load my custom module code on the fly so I don't have to manually install the module on the Gateway. I copied the pom.xml (besides the errant dependency, which seems like it doesn't apply to this use case?) and the submodule structure into my Maven module. I also added all the VM arguments (with corrected port) into a run configuration in IntelliJ and ran it. This gets me to the login screen of the Designer, but no further, citing a 'version mismatch' error as shown below: ```python com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.gateway_interface.GatewayException: Version mismatch at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.gateway_interface.GatewayInterface.newGatewayException(GatewayInterface.java:341) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.gateway_interface.GatewayInterface.sendMessage(GatewayInterface.java:315) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.gateway_interface.GatewayInterface.sendMessage(GatewayInterface.java:268) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.gateway_interface.GatewayInterface.invoke(GatewayInterface.java:905) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.DesignerGatewayConnection.loginDesigner(DesignerGatewayConnection.java:119) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.DesignerGatewayConnection.doLogin(DesignerGatewayConnection.java:40) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.gateway_interface.AbstractGatewayConnection.login(AbstractGatewayConnection.java:886) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.DesignerSplash.doLogin(DesignerSplash.java:469) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.DesignerSplash$5.actionPerformed(DesignerSplash.java:458) at java.desktop/javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1972) at java.desktop/javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2314) at java.desktop/javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:407) at java.desktop/javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:262) at java.desktop/javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(AbstractButton.java:374) at java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicRootPaneUI$Actions.actionPerformed(BasicRootPaneUI.java:259) at java.desktop/javax.swing.SwingUtilities.notifyAction(SwingUtilities.java:1810) at java.desktop/javax.swing.JComponent.processKeyBinding(JComponent.java:2956) at java.desktop/javax.swing.KeyboardManager.fireBinding(KeyboardManager.java:309) at java.desktop/javax.swing.KeyboardManager.fireKeyboardAction(KeyboardManager.java:251) at java.desktop/javax.swing.JComponent.processKeyBindingsForAllComponents(JComponent.java:3049) at java.desktop/javax.swing.JComponent.processKeyBindings(JComponent.java:3041) at java.desktop/javax.swing.JComponent.processKeyEvent(JComponent.java:2918) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:6398) at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2266) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4996) at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2324) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4828) at java.desktop/java.awt.KeyboardFocusManager.redispatchEvent(KeyboardFocusManager.java:1942) at java.desktop/java.awt.DefaultKeyboardFocusManager.dispatchKeyEvent(DefaultKeyboardFocusManager.java:883) at java.desktop/java.awt.DefaultKeyboardFocusManager.preDispatchKeyEvent(DefaultKeyboardFocusManager.java:1146) at java.desktop/java.awt.DefaultKeyboardFocusManager.typeAheadAssertions(DefaultKeyboardFocusManager.java:1020) at java.desktop/java.awt.DefaultKeyboardFocusManager.dispatchEvent(DefaultKeyboardFocusManager.java:848) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4877) at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2324) at java.desktop/java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:2780) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4828) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(EventQueue.java:775) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(EventQueue.java:720) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(EventQueue.java:714) at java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:400) at java.base/java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(ProtectionDomain.java:87) at java.base/java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(ProtectionDomain.java:98) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$5.run(EventQueue.java:747) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$5.run(EventQueue.java:745) at java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:400) at java.base/java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(ProtectionDomain.java:87) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:744) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(EventDispatchThread.java:203) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(EventDispatchThread.java:124) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:113) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:109) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:101) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:90) Ignition v8.0.1 (b2019050718) Java: Oracle Corporation 22.0.1 ``` The gateway version I have installed is 8.0.17 (I know, don't judge) and the Ignition SDK version is the same. Is there another version of something I should be worried about? ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/36 "2025-04-09T23:02:41Z")
> [@Porter\_Ellis](#): > > version I have installed is 8.0.17 > [@Porter\_Ellis](#): > > ```python > Ignition v8.0.1 (b2019050718) > Java: Oracle Corporation 22.0.1 > > ``` 🔎 That said, the point of the `-Dscadarail.version=dev` VM option in my snippet above is precisely to bypass version checking logic. If you're explicitly setting the version to **exactly** `dev`, none of the version verifications are performed, and whatever undefined behavior you hit is on your own head. That you're getting a version mismatch error suggests strongly that you're not setting the appropriate VM options in the appropriate places. > [@Porter\_Ellis](#): > > (besides the errant dependency, which seems like it doesn't apply to this use case?) The point of the errant dependency is to tell Maven what the dependency graph of that subproject should be. IntelliJ then uses that information to build its classpath, which _is_ crucial, if you actually want to load your custom module code. You don't need _that_ dependency, but you do need to tell Maven _something_ about the rest of your project, or it won't be loading your code at all. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/37 "2025-04-09T23:05:47Z")
> [@Porter\_Ellis](#): > > I have installed is 8.0.17 You should have mentioned this up front. I, at least, could then have completely ignored this topic. > [@Porter\_Ellis](#): > > I know, don't judge Sorry, no can not do. You've wasted a bunch of my time following this and [expletive]'d me off. IA staff will be more polite, but I don't have to be. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Porter\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Porter\_Ellis](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Porter_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/38 "2025-04-09T23:08:56Z")
I am also attempting to perform the same module-designer hotload in more modern versions (8.1.42) but the most convenient module to try this on is built in version 8.0.17. I disagree that this is a waste of time because the gateway interface and other relevant bits (as far as module development) seem to be relatively unchanged. I apologize for any irritation I have caused. Try to understand that I am also attempting to mitigate my own frustration with module development by seeking answers in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Porter\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Porter\_Ellis](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Porter_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/39 "2025-04-09T23:45:49Z")
Is there a way to view where the version mismatch might be happening if I launch in debug mode (from IntelliJ)? I have combed through my code and the VM flags to see if there is any versioning that does not match, and I have been unable to find anything. I have even tried manually setting the `-Dscadarail.version=8.0.17` ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408/40 "2025-04-10T15:11:41Z")
Set the version explicitly to `dev` in your VM options. You just need the designer you launch out of the IDE to not care about versions. Take a screenshot to show what you have configured in your run configuration; in my first attempt I was accidentally putting things in as runtime arguments, rather than VM options, due to IntelliJ's frankly terrible "new" run configuration UI. [Previous page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/programmatically-update-third-party-modules/104408.md?page=3)