# Publish Mode and Commit Messages are missing **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition Early Access\ **Created:** [February 15, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624 "2019-02-15T20:29:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![martinel3746](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martinel3746](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/martinel3746)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/1 "2019-02-15T20:29:20Z")
Project Properties / General Publishing Settings are missing from my Ignition 8 beta download from 11-Feb-2019. I don’t have the Publish Mode or Commit Messages. Will there still be separation between Staging and Published versions in Ignition 8? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/2 "2019-02-15T20:32:52Z")
No, staging and published modes no longer exist. Commit messages are gone as well. ---
**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/3 "2019-02-16T04:23:37Z")
Will Ignition 8 included something to replace the staging client’s function of testing changes before rolling out to production clients? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/4 "2019-02-16T13:57:13Z")
No. The official strategy we want to endorse going forward is to use separate staging and production gateways. I think 8.1 will include features to support this strategy and make it easier. ---
**Author:** ![MMaynard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mmaynard/32/3366_2.png) [@MMaynard](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MMaynard)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/5 "2019-02-16T22:30:43Z")
Will that be double the license or is something going to be made available for staging? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/6 "2019-02-17T17:59:27Z")
I’ll come back to this topic on Tuesday with more answers. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/7 "2019-02-19T17:06:21Z")
Ok, so I was only half right. The strategy _will_ be to use staging and production gateways once we have introduced licensing changes and features to support that, probably in 8.1. In 8.0 you can sort of emulate staging/publish by making a copy of your project, doing development on the copy, then “publishing” to the production version by sending resources or copying and overwriting it. ---
**Author:** ![AIO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/aio/32/87549_2.png) [@AIO](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/AIO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/8 "2019-11-01T19:28:49Z")
Kevin, I realize that this is a dated topic, however I have a customer requesting more details on development environment in 8.x. Can you point me to resources with more information on this? Would like to present them with the supported solution from IA. Edit: Specifically, has the licensing you mention been implemented, and where can we find out more? Cheers, ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/publish-mode-and-commit-messages-are-missing/22624/9 "2019-11-09T00:45:09Z")
The licensing changes I mentioned have not been implemented. I think the current target is late Spring, released along with whatever becomes Ignition 8.1. As far as best practices beyond the simple strategy I mentioned it’s probably best to get in touch with a sales engineer via your sales rep and see what they’re currently recommending.