# Reference Tags Going Stale

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reference-tags-going-stale/84985>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [January 30, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reference-tags-going-stale/84985 "2024-01-30T22:59:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![jacob.ramirez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@jacob.ramirez](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jacob.ramirez)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reference-tags-going-stale/84985/1 "2024-01-30T22:59:08Z")

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Has anyone had issues with reference tags going stale? And the tag is referencing is not stale?

I keep having a stale reference tag that is looking at an MQTT engine tag. The MQTT engine tag is not stale.

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**Author:** ![Bryson\_Prince](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/bryson_prince/32/48866_2.png) [@Bryson\_Prince](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Bryson_Prince)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reference-tags-going-stale/84985/2 "2024-02-15T22:25:48Z")

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Hi Jacob,

Tags can go stale for a variety of reasons. I think it would be best to pursue this issue in a ticket with our support department. You can create a ticket using this link: [https://support.inductiveautomation.com/hc/](https://support.inductiveautomation.com/hc/)

It may be worth it to reach out to Cirrus Link to open a support ticket with them as well.

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**Author:** ![jacob.ramirez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@jacob.ramirez](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jacob.ramirez)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reference-tags-going-stale/84985/3 "2024-02-15T22:52:27Z")

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Turns out if the time on my edge system is different from my gateway I run into this problem. Which is unfortunate because we are about to start operating equipment in other time zones.
