# Run two ignition services at one computer **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [January 15, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282 "2021-01-15T04:58:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nader.chinichian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nader.chinichian/32/9261_2.png) [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282/1 "2021-01-15T04:58:11Z")
Hi I need to run two ignition services at a same time in one PC. One of them is v8.0. and other is 8.1. What is the trick to do this? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282/2 "2021-01-15T13:42:23Z")
The best trick is to use docker or a virtual machine. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282/3 "2021-01-15T14:19:59Z")
If you must run them natively, you will have to change multiple port numbers on the first one installed to allow the second installation (in different folders) to succeed. It is a lot of trouble–virtualization is so much easier that I haven’t even run Ignition directly on my dev laptop in years. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282/4 "2021-01-15T14:21:53Z")
Yes, and edit the wrapper files to change the service name as well. ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282/5 "2021-01-15T15:39:38Z")
Just to hijack a little bit here, but can you run docker when you have VM player installed as well? The company I work for uses VM player and when I tried to install docker, it whinged about VM player stuff. Can’t remember now what it was, but VM player no longer ran after docker was installed 😕 maybe I need to run docker inside a VM player VM? 😏 ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282/6 "2021-01-15T16:09:33Z")
It’s a longstanding “issue” due to Windows’ weirdness about hosting virtualization: > **[Docker for Windows w/ VMWare installed](https://forums.docker.com/t/docker-for-windows-w-vmware-installed/19011/19)** > > Hi there, I have currently the same issue as described here… I have a VMware Workstation on win10, and it was already a journey to get this running on win10. Finally I have VMware Workstation running --\>... Honestly, hosting a linux VM and connecting the Docker _client_ on Windows to a docker _daemon_ in a VM would be perfectly fine. ---
**Author:** ![mcgheeiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@mcgheeiv](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mcgheeiv)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282/7 "2021-01-18T22:07:04Z")
I "get" to work in a Windows environment and have successfully set up both VMWare and Docker on the same computer. The laptop must be running fairly current versions of the OS (Windows 10 Pro), VMWare, and Docker. I am using VMWare workstation version 15.5.7, the version I was using before setting up Docker would not work. Following are some instructions for setting up Docker. > [@Docker on Windows on WSL2](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/docker-on-windows-on-wsl2/41722): > > Thanks to a ton of help from @Kevin.Collins I was able to achieve a pretty good Docker setup on my Windows 10 laptop. Following are the main steps I followed: Enable WSL for Windows (Windows Features) Install Linux images (Microsoft App Store - I used Ubuntu 20.04 LTS) Make sure WSL version 2 is running — wsl -l -v (from powershell to determine the version) — wsl --set-default-version 2 (from powershell to set version to 2) Install Docker Desktop (for Windows) - this will also inst… ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/run-two-ignition-services-at-one-computer/42282/8 "2021-01-18T22:20:25Z")
Cool, I’m on 15.5.6, maybe that’s it. I’ll give it a go at some stage, cheers