# Shape drawing tools missing? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maker\ **Created:** [March 16, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158 "2023-03-16T12:44:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lewis\_Sutton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/lewis_sutton/32/44909_2.png) [@Lewis\_Sutton](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Lewis_Sutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/1 "2023-03-16T12:44:05Z")
Hello, am I being very dim or are the shape drawing tools missing from Maker Edition? I have some toggle buttons that need to occasionally disappear, however once visibility is set to 0 I can't bring them back so I would like a transparent rectangle... but I cant find the shape tools anywhere! Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Matrix\_Engineering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matrix_engineering/32/19781_2.png) [@Matrix\_Engineering](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Matrix_Engineering)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/2 "2023-03-16T12:48:47Z")
> [@Perspective Drawing Editor in 8.3 not in 8.1?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-drawing-editor-in-8-3-not-in-8-1/64911): > > Some of the features coming in 8.3, like the fervently awaited Perspective Drawing Editor, got a shout-out during the Q&A portion of the session, exemplifying how crucial the community/developer feedback loop is to making Ignition systems what they are today. Does it mean that the Perspective Drawing Editor will not be included in 8.1 ? scream Maker is perspective only and as such does not have drawing tools like vision does, if you have used vision previously. Your only option right at this minute is to use an external SVG editor e.g. InkScape to create your drawings and import them. ---
**Author:** ![Matrix\_Engineering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matrix_engineering/32/19781_2.png) [@Matrix\_Engineering](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Matrix_Engineering)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/3 "2023-03-16T12:49:54Z")
There is however a pipe tool, you can perhaps make something from that. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/4 "2023-03-16T13:03:17Z")
You really have two issues, one the drawing tools which @Matrix_Engineering responded to, and two, your issue with component visibility. You need to fix the issue with component visibility, overlaying a shape isn't a good solution. Why exactly are you setting visibility on a component based on that components value? That seems weird to me. Perhaps describe your use case and users on this forum can help with a better solution. ---
**Author:** ![Lewis\_Sutton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/lewis_sutton/32/44909_2.png) [@Lewis\_Sutton](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Lewis_Sutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/5 "2023-03-16T13:03:38Z")
Yeah that's of no use, and I can't draw a completely transparent SVG for obvious reasons. And I have already researched changing opacity / transparency and that seems to not be a thing here. I think I'm at a dead end here. Oh well. I appreciate the reply and ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Lewis\_Sutton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/lewis_sutton/32/44909_2.png) [@Lewis\_Sutton](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Lewis_Sutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/6 "2023-03-16T13:09:41Z")
I know it's a bad solution however for instance I have a background pre drawn of a HMI screen with everything (say buttons toggles, data display areas and such) with all buttons "set" to off. Then on clicks I can make them "on" by having an on SVG appear over the top. The issue is that when an object is no longer visible you can no longer interact with it. The shape overlay would be the equivalent of a hotspot, interactive hotspots are fairy standard right? ---
**Author:** ![Lewis\_Sutton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/lewis_sutton/32/44909_2.png) [@Lewis\_Sutton](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Lewis_Sutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/7 "2023-03-16T13:51:15Z")
Dirty fix for me is use use a lot of SVGs with fill-opacity="0.0" ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 11:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/8 "2023-03-18T11:21:43Z")
> [@Lewis\_Sutton](#): > > background pre drawn of a HMI screen with everything (say buttons toggles, data display areas and such) with all buttons "set" to off. That sounds like a solution from the 90s to be honest 😬 Why not just use proper components? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/9 "2023-03-18T13:55:43Z")
Perspective drawing editor is being actively developed... looked impressive so far when I saw it this week. ---
**Author:** ![tamerplc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d78d45/32.png) [@tamerplc](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tamerplc)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/10 "2023-03-18T17:37:11Z")
Is there any expected date for beta release ? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/shape-drawing-tools-missing/71158/11 "2023-03-18T17:42:05Z")
It's a huge effort, right now Q4 is the estimate. No idea how accurate that will be. If you come to ICC in September and ask Perkins nicely he might show you a demo 😛