# Should I expect a log file with no errors

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 10, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/should-i-expect-a-log-file-with-no-errors/90249 "2024-05-10T18:14:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Sanguinetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Joseph\_Sanguinetti](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Joseph_Sanguinetti)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/should-i-expect-a-log-file-with-no-errors/90249/1 "2024-05-10T18:14:49Z")

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My system always has errors - mostly from applications, but also system errors as well. I have an expectation that I should not see reoccurring errors in the system (Not warning or other log info).

Is this expectation not reasonable ? Hoping the collective group can give some guidance.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/should-i-expect-a-log-file-with-no-errors/90249/2 "2024-05-10T19:00:01Z")

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I think you should strive for it, but it's not always possible.

Sometimes devices are expected to be offline and you're using a driver that complains about in the logs, or any number of other examples.

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Sanguinetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Joseph\_Sanguinetti](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Joseph_Sanguinetti)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/should-i-expect-a-log-file-with-no-errors/90249/3 "2024-05-10T19:37:47Z")

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Thanks Kevin - I am fine with definable reasons like the one you listed. I am more concerned about items that do not have clear explanations and just fill up logs.

would love to hear others thoughts on this - thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/should-i-expect-a-log-file-with-no-errors/90249/4 "2024-05-13T15:09:15Z")

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Well, the answer is really "it depends". Without seeing the actual errors you're seeing, it's more or less impossible to definitively say "yes, that's a real problem" or "no, that's spurious and we should turn it down". _In general_, first party Ignition code is "pretty good" about only logging actual Java _exceptions_ as errors, which as the name suggests, implies some "exceptional" thing happened - the 'happy path' was not followed.

I would also ask the question of...does it matter? If you see an error logged in your system, but can't explain the error message _and can't determine anything wrong with your system_, you can probably empirically determine that it's not relevant to you. If you really want an accounting, collect your logs and contact our support department with _specific_ questions you have.