# Simulator tags missing

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulator-tags-missing/44648>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [March 18, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulator-tags-missing/44648 "2021-03-18T19:15:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![rmhoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@rmhoy](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rmhoy)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulator-tags-missing/44648/1 "2021-03-18T19:15:21Z")

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Hello, I’m kinda of new with Ignition. I have upgraded to trial v8.1.3. I followed instructions including videos to create new Simulator tags via Programmable Device Simulator. I can see first folder created but no tags listed. Is there a permission or security that I need to enable? Or am I missing something here? Much appreciated!

![GenSim](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/2/5/25786212aba1bae29997f6fef5ad2594e82ac7c9.jpeg)

 ![GenSim tags working good](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/b/9/b98deb74820a60d88a68fe926e6ac85372834569.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulator-tags-missing/44648/2 "2021-03-18T19:18:09Z")

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Your first screenshot is from the tag browser and from the looks of it you just haven’t gone and added those additional tags to Ignition yet.

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**Author:** ![rmhoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@rmhoy](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rmhoy)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulator-tags-missing/44648/3 "2021-03-18T20:28:17Z")

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Are you saying that I need to add some tags and put them in GenSim folder in the Tag Browser screen? If that is the case, then I couldn’t add any new tags. In the Tag Browser screen, when I click on plus symbol and Browser Devices is unselectable. And if I right click on my mouse, New Tag is also unselectable. Makes me think there is some kind of security/permission somewhere to be enabled. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulator-tags-missing/44648/4 "2021-03-18T20:29:24Z")

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Yes, that’s what I’m talking about doing.

I think the confusion here is because you have the “System” tag provider selected in that drop down. Try changing it back to “default”.

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**Author:** ![rmhoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@rmhoy](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rmhoy)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulator-tags-missing/44648/5 "2021-03-18T20:38:17Z")

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Yes! Now I have the tags available! The Tag Browser is definitely a bit different this time. Thanks for the help!