# Simulators new version

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulators-new-version/32456>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [February 20, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulators-new-version/32456 "2020-02-20T11:57:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jorgeibesi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jorgeibesi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Jorgeibesi)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulators-new-version/32456/1 "2020-02-20T11:57:22Z")

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Hi, Why does the new version of ignition 8.0.8 no longer have previous simulators?

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**Author:** ![rbabcock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/rbabcock/32/13425_2.png) [@rbabcock](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rbabcock)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/simulators-new-version/32456/2 "2020-02-20T12:07:41Z")

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They’re still there, they’ve just been consolidated into the Programmable Device Simulator, which adds some custom functionality as well. There is a page in the user manual for it: [https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80/Programmable+Device+Simulator](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80/Programmable+Device+Simulator)