# Some recomendations to run 8 vision clients in the same gateway? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81, vision\ **Created:** [January 27, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446 "2025-01-27T19:39:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Leonel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Leonel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Leonel)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446/1 "2025-01-27T19:39:51Z")
I am working on an assembly line with four stations, I have one client at each station, there is no problem with this. So I have four computers but only on one computer the gateway is installed. But now, the client wants a second assembly line. I was thinking of using the same license but buying more clients (4 more clients, I don't know if this is possible or if I have to buy a new license or upgrade to an Unlimited Vision license). So if I upgrade my license, do I have to network this second line with the first one? Will all clients use the memory and resources of the computer with the gateway? What is the best practice in this situation? Or is it better to buy a new license with 4 clients? It is not necessary for the 2 lines to be connected to each other, they do not share information. But it seems to me that it is less expensive to upgrade the license than to buy a new one. ---
**Author:** ![ryan.white](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ryan.white/32/73193_2.png) [@ryan.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ryan.white)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446/2 "2025-01-27T19:44:32Z")
Unless you specified the limited vision clients when you licensed your gateway, your single gateway should allow unlimited vision sessions. If it is limited, upgrading it to allow unlimited sessions is definitely cheaper than licensing an entire new gateway. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446/3 "2025-01-27T19:45:00Z")
Vision uses local resources (in the PC with the client) more than gateway resources. This generally means you should **not** run your gateway on the same computer as one of the clients. (Run it on a reliable server.) Yes, you will need to network everything together to run the new line's client from the original gateway. Yes, you may need to upgrade the Vision license on the gateway to Unlimited. (Limited only goes to 5--are you sure your current license is limited?) ---
**Author:** ![Leonel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Leonel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Leonel)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446/4 "2025-01-27T19:46:56Z")
Yes, my license is limited to 4 clients. I have already sent an email to the sales department to get a quote on how much it would cost to upgrade the license to "vision unlimited." ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/5/0/501b809fb46cec8e959ad95fdd6746e0281f5671.png) ---
**Author:** ![Leonel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Leonel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Leonel)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446/5 "2025-01-27T19:56:23Z")
I thought the client uses gateway resources. Because the gateway is on a computer with 16GB of RAM, I thought that maybe with 8 clients I would run out of RAM. ---
**Author:** ![kliu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@kliu](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kliu)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446/6 "2025-01-27T19:59:04Z")
it would...if the client is on the same machine as the gateway haha. Vision Clients using local resources is still one of it's best strengths and I just talked with sales about a new ignition license with a very similar question. I specifically asked if I opted for X amount of users for my Vision module and found that I needed more, would I pay the difference or a whole new module cost? The answer was just the difference (and hence, the other answer - yes, you can upgrade the module of the license and not have to buy a whole new one - tyvm Ignition on their flexibility on this) ---
**Author:** ![ryan.white](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ryan.white/32/73193_2.png) [@ryan.white](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ryan.white)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446/7 "2025-01-27T20:07:12Z")
This guide was originally made with Vision in mind, so the numbers should be fairly accurate: > **[Ignition Server Sizing and Architecture Guide](https://inductiveautomation.com/resources/article/ignition-server-sizing-and-architecture-guide?gad_source=1)** > > This guide is intended to provide some tips to help you determine the correct architecture depending on your requirements. It is important to note that any architecture that you come up with needs to be fully tested and verified. Throughout that... Your main server side load is going to come from queries to your DB and Alarm Journal. You can turn on caching to reduce this load, if multiple clients request the same data in a short time span they'll share the result from the first request. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/some-recomendations-to-run-8-vision-clients-in-the-same-gateway/101446/8 "2025-01-27T20:38:02Z")
> [@Leonel](#): > > I thought the client uses gateway resources. Vision clients just move **data** through the gateway. Vision clients do all of their own UI events and bindings and scripting locally. It is Perspective that bogs down a gateway.