# Stale Overlay Stays **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [August 13, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699 "2020-08-13T19:38:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![m.sanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@m.sanders](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/m.sanders)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699/1 "2020-08-13T19:38:48Z")
![Stale Overlay Retain3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/c/d/cdd390c63f7d6f8e950a365c61404e1c88bc75b6.gif) I was testing 8.0.15 and I found that if I lost connection (for testing purposes I unplugged an ethernet cable) the tags would stale (as they should) but when the connection returned the overlay stayed instead of clearing. I used the simulator OPC device and just pulled 2 randomInts from it. ---
**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699/2 "2020-08-13T20:14:57Z")
We also see this issue in 8.0.15. It seems to affect some bindings but not all. I haven’t taken the time to figure out what the difference is yet and am not certain if this issue was present in earlier 8.0.x versions or not. There have been multiple overlay issues in version 8 with some resolved and everything I’m presently working on is 8.0.15. ---
**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699/3 "2020-08-13T20:20:05Z")
It sounds like you have a simple test case to demonstrate this apparent bug to support. ---
**Author:** ![m.sanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@m.sanders](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/m.sanders)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699/4 "2020-08-13T20:25:45Z")
I’ll send in a support ticket. If I get any news back before this thread is updated I will make sure to update this thread. Thanks for the response, I am a little relieved that I’m not the only one seeing this. ---
**Author:** ![joshdunstan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/joshdunstan/32/43306_2.png) [@joshdunstan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/joshdunstan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699/5 "2020-09-01T00:07:31Z")
Didn’t find this earlier… appears I’m having the same issue. It’s a real problem! ---
**Author:** ![m.sanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@m.sanders](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/m.sanders)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699/6 "2020-09-01T02:33:29Z")
Hello! I put in a ticket and they found that it was a bug. They will update me whenever they know what version it will be fixed in, and I’ll update y’all here! ---
**Author:** ![m.sanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@m.sanders](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/m.sanders)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699/7 "2020-09-12T08:36:20Z")
It looks like this has now been fixed in 8.1 nightly. > [@Nightly 8.1 Changelogs - 2020](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-1-changelogs-2020/38316/9): > > Nightly Changelog: 8.1.0-b20200909 Data Model 324: UDT Defs with Params that match built-in Params will fail to upgrade properly when upgrading to 8.0.15+ UDT Defs with parameters matching Built-in parameters no longer prevent tags from starting up. 323: Tag bindings get stuck in stale quality after connection between designer/client and remote server is re-established When connection between a designer/client and remote server is severed then reconnected, tag bindings on vision components w…