# Stale Trigger Errors

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-trigger-errors/1981>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [June 28, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-trigger-errors/1981 "2010-06-28T13:42:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![david\_mccutchen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@david\_mccutchen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/david_mccutchen)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-trigger-errors/1981/1 "2010-06-28T13:42:16Z")

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On my Transactional groups I am getting the following error(s) on the events tab - “Trigger did not evaluate - Source item currently has bad quality [[false,Stale]]” This is happening on all of the groups with triggers.

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**Author:** ![david\_mccutchen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@david\_mccutchen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/david_mccutchen)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-trigger-errors/1981/2 "2010-06-30T15:09:21Z")

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??

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**Author:** ![Colby.Clegg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/colby.clegg/32/3282_2.png) [@Colby.Clegg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Colby.Clegg)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-trigger-errors/1981/3 "2010-06-30T15:33:16Z")

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Well, it means that your OPC items aren’t getting values. I’ve been away on vacation for the last few weeks, but I believe I’ve heard that this may be caused by some driver problems in 7.1.2. Is that the version you’re running?

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**Author:** ![david\_mccutchen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@david\_mccutchen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/david_mccutchen)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-trigger-errors/1981/4 "2010-06-30T16:23:43Z")

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Yes I am running that version.

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**Author:** ![david\_mccutchen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@david\_mccutchen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/david_mccutchen)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-trigger-errors/1981/5 "2010-07-05T17:30:00Z")

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The stale triggers are not allowing the groups to run. Also stale items are storing as null in the DB.

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**Author:** ![Colby.Clegg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/colby.clegg/32/3282_2.png) [@Colby.Clegg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Colby.Clegg)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-trigger-errors/1981/6 "2010-07-05T22:12:04Z")

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Try upgrading to 7.1.3. There were a number of issues found that could lead to stale data. Let us know if the problem persists, and I can give you a call to troubleshoot.

Regards,