# system.historian.queryRawPoints(...) vs system.tag.queryTagHistory(..)

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**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** scripting\
**Created:** [April 22, 2026, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/system-historian-queryrawpoints-vs-system-tag-querytaghistory/115197 "2026-04-22T12:33:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 22, 2026, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/system-historian-queryrawpoints-vs-system-tag-querytaghistory/115197/3 "2026-04-22T15:34:02Z")

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There are three tag path formats relevant here:

- Basic Tag Paths with just a tag provider,
- Basic Tag Paths with historian+gateway+tag provider stuffed into the provider brackets, and
- Qualified Paths with a flexible expanded format.

The first format just delegates to the tag provider to supply the actual details needed to find the history. The other formats must spell it all out. The newer QualifiedPath format was created for 8.x and is the preferred form in Perspective. The expanded Basic TagPath format is the legacy Vision format.

Scripts are supposed to accept all three.

Discussion here with more details (and further links):

> [@Historical Tag Provider Issues](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/historical-tag-provider-issues/103757):
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> I will start with what I am trying to accomplish here first. So I have a dynamic tag history binding using the model from the manual. key [array] [0] {object} aggregate value alias value path value [1]{object} aggregate value alias value path value ... Now I have done this same thing other places so I know that portion is correct. But when I have a tag path in there. I get the all mysterious: "No historical tag information could be found for any of the specified paths" showing up …

If the "old format" is broken for you (in scripts), that is a bug that should be reported. I'm not really sure how well Perspective is **supposed** to support the 2nd form, or how well Vision is **supposed** to support the 3rd form. Documentation is lacking, and firm details to even write the documentation is hard to find.

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