# Tag not returning Value

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tag-not-returning-value/84961>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [January 30, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tag-not-returning-value/84961 "2024-01-30T16:24:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Craig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@Ryan\_Craig](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ryan_Craig)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tag-not-returning-value/84961/1 "2024-01-30T16:24:21Z")

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I am making a transaction group for a few different machines. When making the group I assigned an item a tag path to get its machine ID:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/9/9/9942bb911728bf9c59cba4570e0c235d58463486.png)  
and it works fine. When I tried to do this same exact thing for a different transaction group, it is returning a null.  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/c/f/cff81cecfc42a107d204119b245a6a46b9dc4a57.png)

I am now realizing that any new tags I am adding to a transaction group is not being populated with a value.

Even when I put in a triggered Expression Item, it is not showing the value

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/a/6a90aaaa25fa70c5e234addf33a6ef92df17c4f9.png)

Any ideas why this is happening?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Laubach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/steve_laubach/32/60900_2.png) [@Steve\_Laubach](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve_Laubach)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tag-not-returning-value/84961/2 "2024-01-30T21:00:46Z")

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It should show a value after the transaction fires. If it doesn't then you probably have an exception which you can see below.