# Talk to me about docker and historian tags **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81, database, docker\ **Created:** [June 15, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384 "2025-06-15T02:15:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![drewdin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/drewdin/32/3363_2.png) [@drewdin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/drewdin)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384/1 "2025-06-15T02:15:02Z")
I noticed my historian tags were not storing into the database, I disabled history and noticed that the tags never got retired. Then I looked at the drv table and noticed multiple entries for my gateway, I'm guessing for every time I update to the new version in docker. Maybe I have something setup incorrectly and the update is acting like a new gateway or new tags? I noticed the tags were in the te table, but had multiple entries starting with id 1,2,3, then 2003, 3003, etc... Any suggestions or tips? thanks! ---
**Author:** ![drewdin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/drewdin/32/3363_2.png) [@drewdin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/drewdin)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384/2 "2025-06-15T02:41:19Z")
something weird is going on, I deleted all of the historian tables so they would get recreated and they did. The DRV table is empty, I enabled history on the tags and the first four came into the te table, with id's 1-4 respectively. the 5th tag got an id of 3002 in the data table but doesn't have a record in te table. I'm going to delete the tags and try again. ---
**Author:** ![pascal.fragnoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pascal.fragnoud/32/24728_2.png) [@pascal.fragnoud](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pascal.fragnoud)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 7:50am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384/3 "2025-06-15T07:50:43Z")
> [@drewdin](#): > > Then I looked at the drv table and noticed multiple entries for my gateway Was the `provider` column's value the same ? Following the chain (scinfo, sce...) was there any difference between the entries that referenced the duplicate drivers ? ---
**Author:** ![drewdin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/drewdin/32/3363_2.png) [@drewdin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/drewdin)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384/4 "2025-06-15T12:48:51Z")
i removed everything form all of the tables and it was still putting history into the data table with ids that were not in the TE table. I ended up deleting all of the tables and uninstalling the tag history module. After install, it worked fine. created ids in the TE table and inserted correctly. The only thing I found is that the tags started at 1000 and not 1 as i would have thought. I'm going to watch this during the next update to see what happens. thanks! ---
**Author:** ![pascal.fragnoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pascal.fragnoud/32/24728_2.png) [@pascal.fragnoud](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pascal.fragnoud)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384/5 "2025-06-15T13:38:00Z")
> [@drewdin](#): > > i removed everything form all of the tables and it was still putting history into the data table with ids that were not in the TE table. Did you restart the history provider ? If not, it would still have the tags references in its cache. ---
**Author:** ![drewdin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/drewdin/32/3363_2.png) [@drewdin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/drewdin)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384/6 "2025-06-15T13:50:36Z")
I did, that’s when I decided to uninstall and reinstall. ---
**Author:** ![wbaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/wbaker/32/85315_2.png) [@wbaker](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/wbaker)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 9:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384/7 "2026-02-24T21:08:48Z")
@drewdin Do you still experience this issue when upgrading your container? ---
**Author:** ![drewdin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/drewdin/32/3363_2.png) [@drewdin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/drewdin)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/talk-to-me-about-docker-and-historian-tags/107384/8 "2026-02-24T22:30:51Z")
I haven’t seen the issue recently