# Transaction Group getting error (version 7.6.3) **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [January 17, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-getting-error-version-7-6-3/101046 "2025-01-17T16:32:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![michael.black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@michael.black](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.black)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-getting-error-version-7-6-3/101046/1 "2025-01-17T16:32:29Z")
I am using a transaction group within Ignition 7.6.3. I have three essentially identical transaction groups for three pieces of equipment. Two of them dont have errors but the one does. Here is one of the two ones not producing an error ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/b/3/b37c59350eee1e14b7c9fd9e38a3732d1cf48ac9.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/e/5/e5800991dbab9ef1b06c790876dbab18bcfc3b5c.png) Here is the one producing an error.. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/3/7/379e6233e92d7a3dde1dd56733123782f24d53bd.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/d/8/d8940d5c124b862d0c9c31e49cdb1f467a0c0468.png) The one producing an error is going back and forth between running and errored. I am not positive if its going back and between running and errored when the Trigger tag is going back and forth between True and False. Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![JordanCClark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jordancclark/32/83362_2.png) [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-getting-error-version-7-6-3/101046/2 "2025-01-17T16:50:26Z")
Anything in the Events tab? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/2/a/2a234079b728015bfca69cc8e5234e33376d2e75.png) ---
**Author:** ![michael.black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@michael.black](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.black)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-getting-error-version-7-6-3/101046/3 "2025-01-17T17:05:24Z")
Looks like its getting value of NULL sometimes. I am watching the tag and I see nothing but going back and forth between true and false ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/0/1/01b08163e7e7932b85995a5036282db2cd3dca5b.png) ---
**Author:** ![michael.black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@michael.black](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.black)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-getting-error-version-7-6-3/101046/4 "2025-01-17T17:06:21Z")
My bad...its related to the Start\_Time...hmmm ---
**Author:** ![michael.black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@michael.black](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.black)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-getting-error-version-7-6-3/101046/5 "2025-01-17T17:12:38Z")
It might not be an issue. Even though the trigger is cycling on and off every second per the plc program, its not actually started so I can see why the Start\_Time is blank. The other two also show Start\_Time as NULL as they too aren't started yet. I am thinking once the triggers for the other two get activated they would show the same thing if the trigger is active but its technically not started. To me the trigger shouldn't be turning on unless you are running but this is an older program by another programmer. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Laubach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/steve_laubach/32/60900_2.png) [@Steve\_Laubach](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve_Laubach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-getting-error-version-7-6-3/101046/6 "2025-01-17T17:55:04Z")
Yes, that version of Ignition is somewhere around 15 years old. How is start time defined? What do you see if you double click on that tag in the transaction?