# Transactional groups trouble starting **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [July 20, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transactional-groups-trouble-starting/2057 "2010-07-20T21:39:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![david\_mccutchen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@david\_mccutchen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/david_mccutchen)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transactional-groups-trouble-starting/2057/1 "2010-07-20T21:39:26Z")
On a gateway restart or a computer restart, the transactional groups will show to be running but will not log data. The groups can be stopped and restarted and all is ok. 7.1.3. ---
**Author:** ![Colby.Clegg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/colby.clegg/32/3282_2.png) [@Colby.Clegg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Colby.Clegg)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transactional-groups-trouble-starting/2057/2 "2010-07-21T00:01:14Z")
Is there anything in the log file at all? Regards, ---
**Author:** ![david\_mccutchen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@david\_mccutchen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/david_mccutchen)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transactional-groups-trouble-starting/2057/3 "2010-07-21T13:58:43Z")
Here is the log file. We are running Ubuntu Linux 10.04 and Ignition 7.1.4. There are 2 start-ups for the logs. 1 starts @ 7:54 a.m for 7.1.3 and the other starts @ 8:08 a.m for 7.1.4. I changed the .html to .txt for uploading. [Gateway.log.txt](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/1X/99f6c3f6478be6b895c4fa72543059851ee99856.txt) (858 KB)