# Troubleshooting a property reference log error

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/troubleshooting-a-property-reference-log-error/89668>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** perspective\
**Created:** [April 29, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/troubleshooting-a-property-reference-log-error/89668 "2024-04-29T23:01:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![ltoscano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@ltoscano](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ltoscano)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/troubleshooting-a-property-reference-log-error/89668/1 "2024-04-29T23:01:41Z")

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Hello All. I'm working on a project using perspective and during testing/troubleshooting of the screens I noticed I'm suddenly getting an error on one of my views as seen in the log. It occurs the first time I load the screen. (I.E. if I navigate away and then back, or if I save changes in designer).

 ![PropertyReference](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/d/5/d5c303a89a0420fab366daae86434a0d68604436.jpeg)

The magnifying glass doesn't expand enough to tell me what component the error is on. I went through component by component looking for something off but didn't see anything. Is there a better/easier way to troubleshoot this or find more details?

Thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/troubleshooting-a-property-reference-log-error/89668/2 "2024-04-30T15:15:12Z")

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Set that `PropertyReference` logger to debug and you should get a more useful value logged side-by-side with those 'failed to read value' messages.
