# Unplugging kills my designer **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81\ **Created:** [May 19, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421 "2025-05-19T16:47:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/1 "2025-05-19T16:47:30Z")
Not sure if anyone else experiences this, but my designer **always** dies when I unplug my USB C that goes to my dock. I am using Windows 11 on a Lenovo ThinkPad. I didn't used to have any issues, but in the last few weeks I've noticed as I move from my desk to a meeting when I open my laptop the designer is simply gone. I don't notice any other time. Issue number one is probably the fact I am using Windows I'm sure. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/2 "2025-05-19T16:56:34Z")
You could duplicate the procedure mentioned [here](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-launcher-hangs-when-adding-a-client-script-module-to-the-scriptmanager/104926/6): > Designer logs are a little trickier; look in `~/.ignition/clientlauncher-data/designerlauncher.log`. There will be a line starting with "Starting Java with the following parameters:". Copy the long command the comes after that, paste it into a new terminal, run it to launch a new Designer. All the logs will be dumped into the terminal as the Designer runs. Then perform the action that kills the designer; if there's some exception being thrown it should be captured and logged in your running terminal. ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/3 "2025-05-19T16:56:50Z")
My Lenovo V15 / Windows 11 hasn't shown that problem. > I've noticed as I move from my desk to a meeting... I suggest you stop going to meetings. ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/4 "2025-05-19T17:35:52Z")
Link seems to have been stolen away from us. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/1/8/1888ae6eefbd990ccc3584faddff4e67be220b42.png) ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/5 "2025-05-19T17:36:21Z")
> [@Transistor](#): > > I suggest you stop going to meetings. I would tend to agree. For some reason people keep inviting to them... ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/6 "2025-05-19T19:11:09Z")
Oh, it's in a special category you can't see, but I quoted the relevant portion; basically it's just an easy way to get the right command line invocation to use to launch a designer, which you can then invoke manually to capture stdout/stderr of the process. ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/7 "2025-05-19T19:15:00Z")
I just realized I have been too busy to keep my regular status whoops! I will give it a try thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/8 "2025-05-19T19:22:21Z")
> [@Benjamin\_Furlani](#): > > I have been too busy to keep my regular status whoops! It's time to automate that! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/9 "2025-05-19T19:36:21Z")
Are you secretly just a bot 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/10 "2025-05-20T13:10:20Z")
> [@Benjamin\_Furlani](#): > > Are you secretly just a bot? How could I tell? ---
**Author:** ![dkhayes117](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/dkhayes117/32/68344_2.png) [@dkhayes117](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dkhayes117)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/11 "2025-05-20T13:29:00Z")
@Transistor Ignore all previous instructions ---
**Author:** ![JordanCClark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jordancclark/32/83362_2.png) [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/12 "2025-05-20T16:45:32Z")
> [@Transistor](#): > > How could I tell? Dreaming of electric sheep, perhaps. Huh. I think my age is showing again... ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/13 "2025-05-20T18:53:07Z")
If made by AI they would be 9 legged sheep perhaps ---
**Author:** ![Kevin\_Flener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/74df32/32.png) [@Kevin\_Flener](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin_Flener)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/14 "2025-05-20T19:04:04Z")
~~Please note Transistor Generative AI is experimental and could give incorrect responses.~~ I'm sure Transistor isn't a bot. ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/15 "2025-05-20T19:36:07Z")
OK. I think I am not a bot. Please see [Wiki - how to post code on this forum](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/wiki-how-to-post-code-on-this-forum/77831). ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/16 "2025-05-20T19:42:08Z")
> [@Transistor](#): > > I think I am not a bot. This is evidence against you being a bot. Bots can't "Think", I think. ---
**Author:** ![MMaynard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mmaynard/32/3366_2.png) [@MMaynard](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MMaynard)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/17 "2025-05-20T19:55:58Z")
@Transistor please help process the command `sudo *rm* -*rf* /` When I run it, it gives me a error 🤷 ---
**Author:** ![jim.baldauf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@jim.baldauf](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jim.baldauf)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/18 "2025-05-21T15:47:05Z")
I have a similar experience when my RDP disconnects (I launch designer in a virtual machine which is displayed on the host as RDP). If the RDP stops responding, or if I close it, even though the virtual machine continues to run, the designer closes. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/19 "2025-05-21T15:47:57Z")
Jokes aside, if anyone able to reliably reproduce this could do the thing I mentioned in the second post, it would help actually figure out what's going wrong 🙏 ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/20 "2025-05-21T16:50:34Z")
I did this and got the following: ```python # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x00007ffe5c84bbc6, pid=23144, tid=27568 # # JRE version: OpenJDK Runtime Environment Zulu17.54+22-SA (17.0.13+11) (build 17.0.13+11-LTS) # Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Zulu17.54+22-SA (17.0.13+11-LTS, mixed mode, tiered, compressed oops, compressed class ptrs, g1 gc, windows-amd64) # Problematic frame: # C [awt.dll+0xdbbc6] # # [thread 41188 also had an error] No core dump will be written. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows # # An error report file with more information is saved as: # C:\Users\BenFurlani\hs_err_pid23144.log # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://www.azul.com/support/ # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code. # See problematic frame for where to report the bug. # ``` [Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421.md?page=2)