# Unplugging kills my designer

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition81\
**Created:** [May 19, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421 "2025-05-19T16:47:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/21 "2025-05-21T16:56:50Z")

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> [@Benjamin\_Furlani](#):
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> `C:\Users\BenFurlani\hs_err_pid23144.log`

Can you get this?

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**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/22 "2025-05-21T17:00:04Z")

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Here ya go:

[hs\_err\_pid23144.log](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/uploads/short-url/916oDqI2amnBsi0RDfiRrTJ9aHC.log) (568.2 KB)

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/23 "2025-05-21T17:10:52Z")

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Looks like this JDK bug:

> **[Loading...](https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8341382)**

We can lean on our vendor a little but there's not a ton we can do.

I wouldn't advise this as a long term solution, but you could _try_ swapping the `awt.dll` from an older runtime folder in the `.ignition` cache in to overwrite the one in the latest. No idea if that would even do anything.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/24 "2025-05-21T17:24:41Z")

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_Pssst!_ **Windows**

Run your designer(s) in Linux.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/25 "2025-05-21T17:25:36Z")

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> [@pturmel](#):
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> Run your designer(s) in Linux.

Where you'll get a whole new but different set of issues to deal with 🙃

Unless you're on a low DPI screen and still running Xorg, perhaps.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/26 "2025-05-21T17:28:00Z")

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> [@Kevin.Herron](#):
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> Unless you're on a low DPI screen and still running Xorg, perhaps.

Why yes. Twin 4K x 32" monitors counts as low DPI, I guess. And Xorg's stability mocks Wayland adopters. (To which I will switch when it is ready.)

(Debian Bookworm w/ KDE desktop now-a-days, FWIW. No snaps.)

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/27 "2025-05-21T17:30:35Z")

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I guess low vs high DPI is not really relevant, it's just whatever system-wide scaling or Xft.dpi changes you need to make.

I had a 32" @ 4K screen at one point and pretty sure I had to run it at the equivalent of 125% scaling to seem like everything was the right size for me.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/28 "2025-05-21T17:32:26Z")

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Interesting. I use 100%. I have to wear reading glasses anyways, so I put the extra real estate to good use.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unplugging-kills-my-designer/106421/29 "2025-05-21T17:35:07Z")

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I think 100% was okay but with the font DPI bumped from 96 to 120? It was a while ago that I had that setup.

For a while I started using a single 32" @ 6K monitor, which was great because that's an even 200% scaling, which works pretty well even on Wayland.

Now I'm using 2x 27" @ 4K, which requires 150% scaling, and really falls apart for most Java stuff on Linux. IntelliJ is the only thing that kind of works with fractional scaling.

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