# Use cases for Transaction Groups in Ignition

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition80, ignition81\
**Created:** [November 20, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154 "2023-11-20T19:11:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Gustavo\_Rojas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Gustavo\_Rojas](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gustavo_Rojas)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/1 "2023-11-20T19:11:24Z")

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I removed this content because was a questions I made to a LLMs . Pls delete the post .

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/2 "2023-11-20T19:14:24Z")

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> [@Gustavo\_Rojas](#):
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> [Use case 5.] For example, an emergency stop button in the Ignition HMI can trigger a Transaction Group to send an emergency stop command to the PLC, ensuring a quick and coordinated response to critical events.

I can't imagine anyone responsible for safety signing off on that.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/3 "2023-11-20T19:19:54Z")

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> [@Gustavo\_Rojas](#):
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> Transaction Groups serve as a reliable mechanism for sending control actions from the Ignition SCADA system to the PLCs

ChatGPT has been smoking something strong. As to be expected.

{ Don't trust LLMs for technical content where you don't already know the answer. They are **language** models. }

I'm in favor of banning the posting of LLM-generated content on this forum.

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/4 "2023-11-20T19:24:58Z")

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> [@pturmel](#):
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> I'm in favor of banning the posting of LLM-generated content on this forum.

I'm not updating the TOS yet, but if it becomes a problem, definitely.

@Gustavo_Rojas please don't make low-effort topics like this again. You've got legitimate contributions in your past posting history, so I don't think you're a spammer, but if a brand new user had tried to submit this post I'd nuke it and ban them outright.

Ignition isn't a large enough product for LLMs to have useful context to "understand" anything about it, really; instead they'll happily spit out nonsense pattern-matched off whatever buzzwords it scraped from the internet.

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**Author:** ![Gustavo\_Rojas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Gustavo\_Rojas](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gustavo_Rojas)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/5 "2023-11-20T19:26:12Z")

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Thank you for your comment. Got it .

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**Author:** ![JordanCClark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jordancclark/32/83362_2.png) [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/6 "2023-11-20T19:26:18Z")

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A prime example of ChatGPT of trying to dumb down eveyone.

It started out okay-ish, but quickly went into the weeds with items I would never use a transaction group for.

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**Author:** ![Gustavo\_Rojas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Gustavo\_Rojas](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gustavo_Rojas)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/7 "2023-11-20T19:26:54Z")

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Got it .

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**Author:** ![Gustavo\_Rojas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Gustavo\_Rojas](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gustavo_Rojas)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/8 "2023-11-20T19:34:31Z")

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Thank you and I sorry for the post . I tried to delete but I cannot delete .

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**Author:** ![KathyApplebaum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kathyapplebaum/32/7261_2.png) [@KathyApplebaum](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/KathyApplebaum)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/9 "2023-11-21T15:59:16Z")

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> [@paul-griffith](#):
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> Ignition isn't a large enough product for LLMs to have useful context to "understand" anything about it, really; instead they'll happily spit out nonsense pattern-matched off whatever buzzwords it scraped from the internet.

tbh, this is true about _many_ things, whether they are large or not. LLMs are good for one thing and one thing only -- predicting words that often go together. They have no understanding of what those words are or if the combination they come up with could be disasterous. (Okay, taking off my ML cranky pants. Back to your regular programming)

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**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/10 "2023-11-21T22:28:09Z")

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> [@Gustavo\_Rojas](#):
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> sorry for the post

Don't worry about it; this was actually a great contribution. Every one of us has put something out there that wasn't well received, but at the end of the day, the community on the whole grows from the feedback.

Instead of deleting the post, consider changing the title. Something like: "Hazards of taking LLM responses at face value"

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**Author:** ![Gustavo\_Rojas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Gustavo\_Rojas](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gustavo_Rojas)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-cases-for-transaction-groups-in-ignition/82154/11 "2023-11-21T22:30:06Z")

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Thank you, Justine. Without missteps is dificult a good learning .
